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      01-09-2020, 04:00 PM   #1
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Question 2013 535i M Sport purchase

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I'm looking at purchasing a 2013 535i, carbon black/black leather, with 90k miles from a dealership. The car has the following options when I plug in the VIN to the decoder sites - I omitted some to save space:

S2TBA Sport automatic gearbox
S3AGA Reversing camera
S316A automatic trunk lid mechanism
S319A Integrated universal remote control
S322A Comfort access
P337A M Sports package
S4B9A Interior trim strips,alum.finishgrinding
S4U1A Ceramic application, control elements
S415A Sun-blind, rear
S416A Roller sun visor, rear lateral
S430A Interior/outside mirror with auto dip
S431A Interior mirror with automatic-dip
S453A Climate-controlled seats, front
S455A Active seat for driver and passenger
S456A Comfort seat with memory
S465A Through-loading system
S488A Lumbar support, driver and passenger
S494A Seat heating driver/passenger
S5AGA Lane change warning
S5DLA Surround View
S508A Park Distance Control (PDC)
S6NFA Music interface for Smartphone
S6UHA Traffic Information
S6WAA Instrument panel with extended scope
S609A Navigation system Professional
S610A Head-up display
S615A Extended BMW Online Information
S655A Satellite tuner
S677A HiFi system Professional DSP
S704A M Sports suspension
S710A M leather steering wheel
S715A M Aerodynamics package
S760A High gloss shadow line
S775A Headlining anthracite

So, looking at the 2013 pricing and options list, it looks like this car has the following options:

ZDA Driver Assistance Package
ZDB Driver Assistance Plus
ZLS Luxury Seating Package
ZMP M Sport Package
ZPP Premium Package
ZTP Technology Package
2TB Sport automatic transmission with shift paddles
494 Heated front seats
677 Premium hi-fi system
416 Power rear sunshade with rear manual side window

This seems like a very well optioned car from what I can tell. Also, the 2013 options list doesn't mention the 704 M sport suspension, but this car has it...is that peculiar? The car is a one-owner, new P-zero run flats (yuck), and the price is about $13.5k. Does this sound reasonable?

About me: I'm an avid DIY person. I had a '00 M5 years ago that I replaced the clutch myself, so I think I can handle most anything on the car. We're expecting our first child in June, so I need a grown up vehicle. Currently I have a '92 3000gt VR4 and '92 Eagle Talon Tsi AWD that I'll be selling some time this year.

Thanks!
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Hi everyone,

I'm looking at purchasing a 2013 535i, carbon black/black leather, with 90k miles from a dealership. The car has the following options when I plug in the VIN to the decoder sites - I omitted some to save space:

S2TBA Sport automatic gearbox
S3AGA Reversing camera
S316A automatic trunk lid mechanism
S319A Integrated universal remote control
S322A Comfort access
P337A M Sports package
S4B9A Interior trim strips,alum.finishgrinding
S4U1A Ceramic application, control elements
S415A Sun-blind, rear
S416A Roller sun visor, rear lateral
S430A Interior/outside mirror with auto dip
S431A Interior mirror with automatic-dip
S453A Climate-controlled seats, front
S455A Active seat for driver and passenger
S456A Comfort seat with memory
S465A Through-loading system
S488A Lumbar support, driver and passenger
S494A Seat heating driver/passenger
S5AGA Lane change warning
S5DLA Surround View
S508A Park Distance Control (PDC)
S6NFA Music interface for Smartphone
S6UHA Traffic Information
S6WAA Instrument panel with extended scope
S609A Navigation system Professional
S610A Head-up display
S615A Extended BMW Online Information
S655A Satellite tuner
S677A HiFi system Professional DSP
S704A M Sports suspension
S710A M leather steering wheel
S715A M Aerodynamics package
S760A High gloss shadow line
S775A Headlining anthracite

So, looking at the 2013 pricing and options list, it looks like this car has the following options:

ZDA Driver Assistance Package
ZDB Driver Assistance Plus
ZLS Luxury Seating Package
ZMP M Sport Package
ZPP Premium Package
ZTP Technology Package
2TB Sport automatic transmission with shift paddles
494 Heated front seats
677 Premium hi-fi system
416 Power rear sunshade with rear manual side window

This seems like a very well optioned car from what I can tell. Also, the 2013 options list doesn't mention the 704 M sport suspension, but this car has it...is that peculiar? The car is a one-owner, new P-zero run flats (yuck), and the price is about $13.5k. Does this sound reasonable?

About me: I'm an avid DIY person. I had a '00 M5 years ago that I replaced the clutch myself, so I think I can handle most anything on the car. We're expecting our first child in June, so I need a grown up vehicle. Currently I have a '92 3000gt VR4 and '92 Eagle Talon Tsi AWD that I'll be selling some time this year.

Thanks!
Looks VERY well optioned. If the mileage doesn't give you pause and the car checks out cosmetically as well as mechanically I would say go for it. The price seems, to me, to be quite reasonable.

Oh, what kind of dealership? BMW? If BMW I would definitely get it.
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      01-09-2020, 08:51 PM   #3
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Looks VERY well optioned. If the mileage doesn't give you pause and the car checks out cosmetically as well as mechanically I would say go for it. The price seems, to me, to be quite reasonable.

Oh, what kind of dealership? BMW? If BMW I would definitely get it.
No, it's a Kia dealership. At least it's not one of the tiny lots on the side of the highway. Local car, seems like a good deal. I would prefer less miles but that's ok.
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Also, the 2013 options list doesn't mention the 704 M sport suspension, but this car has it...is that peculiar?
Normal. 704 was added during the 2013 model year, part of the M-Sport package. It may not have been in the earliest pricing guides from 2012 though, but in later ones. Looks like a great car btw.
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Looks VERY well optioned. If the mileage doesn't give you pause and the car checks out cosmetically as well as mechanically I would say go for it. The price seems, to me, to be quite reasonable.

Oh, what kind of dealership? BMW? If BMW I would definitely get it.
No, it's a Kia dealership. At least it's not one of the tiny lots on the side of the highway. Local car, seems like a good deal. I would prefer less miles but that's ok.
Price is good. Just get a warranty.
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Seems like a good deal actually i wouldn't let the mileage worry you the n55 100 times more reliable than what your use too right now. I've had modded dsm's for 10 years definenitally turned me into a mechanic. I bought a n54 335i 6 years ago and thats even 50 times more reliable than any of the dsm's i had and just as fast (mid 11's 1/4). It'll be a huge upgrade in everyway.
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Looks good, IMHO!
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Update:

I picked up the car on Jan 25th. It looks very nice and seems to be in good condition. The few defects I've noticed so far include a temperamental power rear window shade, interior door handle/pull trim wear/disintegration, windshield cowl disintegration, noisy blower motor on high speeds, and a leaky valve cover. I plan to do all the repairs myself.

For the blower motor noise, it seems that the foam filter disintegrates after a few years. I was thinking of replacing it with a stainless steel mesh screen.
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Update:

I picked up the car on Jan 25th. It looks very nice and seems to be in good condition. The few defects I've noticed so far include a temperamental power rear window shade, interior door handle/pull trim wear/disintegration, windshield cowl disintegration, noisy blower motor on high speeds, and a leaky valve cover. I plan to do all the repairs myself.

For the blower motor noise, it seems that the foam filter disintegrates after a few years. I was thinking of replacing it with a stainless steel mesh screen.
You actually got a great deal on that. For most, it is hard to find all the options in one. When I was looking at 2013, if it has m sport, it was missing everything else such as comfort seats and sport trans. So I ended up with a 2012 with the downside having the CIC instead of NBT, oh well! Enjoy!
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Find an indy mechanic on BIMRS.ORG and have them do a "Pre-Purchase Inspection" even though you've already purchased the car. It should cost under $200 and it will let you know what items are due to be replaced so you can start budgeting for them, etc.
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I picked up the car on Jan 25th. It looks very nice and seems to be in good condition. The few defects I've noticed so far include a temperamental power rear window shade, interior door handle/pull trim wear/disintegration, windshield cowl disintegration, noisy blower motor on high speeds, and a leaky valve cover. I plan to do all the repairs myself.

For the blower motor noise, it seems that the foam filter disintegrates after a few years. I was thinking of replacing it with a stainless steel mesh screen.
Nice pickup! That plastic and foam deterioration seems to be common with cars in TX. My previous 2011 535 spent its first 6 years in Dallas so it had the same issues. Not too expensive to replace (assuming you DIY it, of course). Congrats on the pickup!
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Update:

I picked up the car on Jan 25th. It looks very nice and seems to be in good condition. The few defects I've noticed so far include a temperamental power rear window shade, interior door handle/pull trim wear/disintegration, windshield cowl disintegration, noisy blower motor on high speeds, and a leaky valve cover. I plan to do all the repairs myself.

For the blower motor noise, it seems that the foam filter disintegrates after a few years. I was thinking of replacing it with a stainless steel mesh screen.
How do you like the car so far?
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Nice pickup! That plastic and foam deterioration seems to be common with cars in TX. My previous 2011 535 spent its first 6 years in Dallas so it had the same issues. Not too expensive to replace (assuming you DIY it, of course). Congrats on the pickup!
Yeah, having lived in DFW and the Austin area for ~20 years, I'm used to sun-baked car parts. At least the parts are still in production, unlike some of my other cars!


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Find an indy mechanic on BIMRS.ORG and have them do a "Pre-Purchase Inspection" even though you've already purchased the car. It should cost under $200 and it will let you know what items are due to be replaced so you can start budgeting for them, etc.
I had a PPI done by AutoScope in Dallas. The only thing they mentioned that really needed attention was the valve cover.



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How do you like the car so far?
It's very nice! It's the perfect combination of sporty and luxury for me. And I'm sure that it will be better after I can replace the run flats, struts/shocks, and maybe upgrade the sway bars. I'm thinking of buying the bimmer-tech CarPlay MMI adapter too. That's the only thing the car needs in the multimedia/tech department.

I will change the transmission fluid (drain and fill a few times), then replace the pan. I'll also replace the rear differential fluid and inspect the differential bushings and giubo for tears. I want to have a nice, solid base to start from. Eventually, I'd like to explore the MHD or BM3 flash options.
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I replaced the valve cover and the windshield cowl yesterday. I also pulled out the blower motor and cleaned out the leaves, then epoxied some aluminum screening on the blower intake. I'm really loving the car!
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Good stuff! These cars really are amazing machines
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Good to hear that you're enjoying it.
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