[dolmaxdog]

Hi All,

Saw this on Turner Motorsport Website,

https://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-3...intake/?pdk=Ag

This sounds too good to be true even for a sealed unit...Any thoughts?

[PJinCA]

Anyone who claims 32 HP from an intake is a BS artist, period. Any intake is good for maybe 5 HP realistically. That particular company aFe has a history of BS claims. Back when I got my first E60 they were claiming big gains from those intakes, and several dyno runs proved their intakes actually suffered from horrendous heat soak and actually LOST 10 HP in the E60. Seriously, hundreds of people returned their intakes to shops I knew for refunds.

[Sedoy]

hahaha...

[mko9]

Perhaps looking in the right forum and using the search function might turn something up.

http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=987089

http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1201626

[Bmw doubles]

The gains could actually be there if you specially tuned for that setup. Even if it was tuned to that hardware I think you're talking about top end when CFM would be at its highest. Even in that scenario you still need to scoop the air in for maximum pressure.

[EL Jeffe 5]

Intake is just BS
I never spend my money on junk like that
its been proven intake doesn't give more hp

[Hasser]

i commented on another post about this afe intake.

they are not claiming a gain of 32 hp on the peak power output, but if you look at the dyno graphs it shows an increase of 32 hp over stock lower down the range / band.

so where say the stock intake will be giving 200 hp and 4,000 rpm - the afe will give you 232 hp at 4,000 rpm (i just made the figures up but you know what i mean?) so not a peak output increase of 32 hp over stock, but an increase over stock in comparison.

[lsturbointeg]

are people just better off getting a K&N drop in filter instead with somewhat gains or does this fall into hype?

[jabbarjd]

I went with the Burger intake because it looks better (IMO) and cost less, and I knew I wouldn't get any significant power gains. All I wanted was for my F10 to breathe and sound a little better.

Originally Posted by Hasser

i commented on another post about this afe intake.

they are not claiming a gain of 32 hp on the peak power output, but if you look at the dyno graphs it shows an increase of 32 hp over stock lower down the range / band.

so where say the stock intake will be giving 200 hp and 4,000 rpm - the afe will give you 232 hp at 4,000 rpm (i just made the figures up but you know what i mean?) so not a peak output increase of 32 hp over stock, but an increase over stock in comparison.

Hasser is absolutely right. aFe does disclose a dyno run, but there is a two month gap between runs and their claim is essentially a max delta between the two setups, not a delta between the peak power/torque readings.
http://afepower.com/catalog/54-82082...082-1H1600.jpg

[Hasser]

Originally Posted by jabbarjd

I went with the Burger intake because it looks better (IMO) and cost less, and I knew I wouldn't get any significant power gains. All I wanted was for my F10 to breathe and sound a little better.



Hasser is absolutely right. aFe does disclose a dyno run, but there is a two month gap between runs and their claim is essentially a max delta between the two setups, not a delta between the peak power/torque readings.
http://afepower.com/catalog/54-82082...082-1H1600.jpg

i went with the BMS also.

purely on lower price point and it does look good in the engine bay with it being open.

plus in the UK it never really gets above 20 degrees C if you're lucky so heat soak etc, shouldnt be an issue compared to say running it in hotter ambient temps of other parts of the world.

[EL Jeffe 5]

watch this please

[mko9]

Originally Posted by lsturbointeg

are people just better off getting a K&N drop in filter instead with somewhat gains or does this fall into hype?

Reference the first thread I linked, above. I did before and after dynos going from a K&N drop in filter to the AFE intake. Contrary to El Jeffe's assertions, there is an improvement. Just not 32hp or 60ftlbs anywhere in my dyno curve.

[PJinCA]

One trick aFe has used in the past is running the stock setup on the dyno with no fan in front of the car, then rerunning the dyno run with the aFe intake and a fan blowing DIRECTLY on the intake. Hmm, wonder why it made power?
Also, posting a dyno "showing" gains of 32 hp on your website is effectively claiming your intake provides 32 hp gains. Which is disingenuous at the least.
If they reach the claimed numbers via a tune, then that must be stated with the dyno graph, as any legitimate company would.

I would get the BMS intake as well, not so much because of expected power gains, but the sound of the engine breathing would be nice. As with all tuning parts, it will not be one part that gets big gains - rather it would be the sum of the parts (intake, exhaust, turbo, fuel, down pipe, charge pipe) + a tune designed to optimize the performance of the upgrades that will make the best power.