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05-24-2014, 11:02 AM | #1 |
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535i vs 435i Grancoupe
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I am thinking of changing 535i for a new 435i Grancoupe What are the pros and cons of it? What it will be compared to the 535i? Thanks
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I would say the interior is the biggest difference. Have a look at any 3-series and see if you like it. To me theere is a huge quality difference in the feel of all the controls, where the F10 feels more refined.
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05-24-2014, 03:01 PM | #4 |
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It seems a downgrade to me too, but I wanted to get some sportiness back. I had a 3 series loaner, and was totally disappointed after owning a 5 series. I am just hoping, 4 series is better than a 3 series
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05-24-2014, 03:08 PM | #5 |
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If you want sportiness, do some engine and suspension tweaking - that'll give you some sportiness and it'll probably be less than the hit you'll take on the depreciation of your car and you won't have to downgrade to a smaller car.
Just my $0.02.
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05-24-2014, 03:18 PM | #6 |
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Interior is very low rent in comparison to 5 series, much more exposed plastic, smaller seats etc.
Does look nice though on the outside
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05-24-2014, 04:07 PM | #7 |
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4 series is the exact same model as the 3 series. BMW's business model has shifted to a horizontal integration. They asked themselves how can we sell more cars??? Their response is to push out slightly modified models that attract diverse audiences. 4 series coupe is for the soccer moms.
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05-24-2014, 08:06 PM | #9 |
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6 series Grancoupe is a very beautiful car, much more than a 4 series Grancoupe, but it is way too expensive
How about the beautiful new C Class coming out, May be a C400 will be a great car to buy
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05-24-2014, 08:17 PM | #10 |
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I would stick to the 5-series. The 4 is simply a 3 re-packaged. You'll lose quite a bit in terms of luxury as others have pointed out. The 6 GC is nice, but yes - much higher price. You may pick one up CPO, though, if price is the only concern there?
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05-25-2014, 12:35 AM | #11 |
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No comparison on the interiors. We have a 435ix M-Sport and a 535ix on order. After driving both, the 5 series is in a different league all together. Don't get me wrong, the 4 series is a very nice car but it's not even close to a 5 series. If you are looking for a smaller car, you may love it. If it were me and wanted something sportier than a 5 series with four doors, I would look for a pre owned 640i gran coupe before a new 435.
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05-25-2014, 06:15 AM | #12 |
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Thanks for the replies and honest answers.
Rumors are that next generation 5 series ( In 3 yrs ) will lose some of its weight. I have to be patient, rather than downgrading. Infact I was so disappointed after the loaner 4 cylinder 3 series, I bought Acura TSX as my second car.
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05-26-2014, 01:54 PM | #13 |
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Not sure why ppl are hating on the interior of the 4GC.
When my lease is up on my 535i - the new 5 will not be out yet. The 4GC is definitely one of the cars i will consider. Great handling, 0-60 in under 5sec, looks great, interior is decent. I miss the sport seats from my E92 which the 4GC has. |
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05-26-2014, 05:31 PM | #14 |
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4 GC also has individual colors and leathers available , which looks good in pictures
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I am going from a 2011 535i M-Sport to a 2015 435i GC, and couldn't be more excited. The 5 is a great car and when my lease was up in April, I could have gotten a loaded one for less than the GC that I ordered, however the F10 is much bigger than I need. The interior of the 5 is world class, but the 3/4 series interior is pretty good.
Now a 2 series GC would be perfect for me. My favorite BMW is the e46 and I long for that driving experience again. -King |
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05-27-2014, 12:34 PM | #17 |
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I would choose 435 GC over any 5 series, including 550i. To be honest, if I want luxury I would choose Lexus or Mercedes (or go up to 6 or 7 in BMW which are much more expensive). The 5 is neither that luxurious nor sporty...
The 3 and 4 drive significantly better in terms of handling and nimbleness compared to 5 series. Drive your 5, make a 90 degree turn at even low speed say 20, then step on the gas as you exit the turn, vs doing the same on a 3 or 4, you can tell a huge diference immediately. If that's what you value, get a 435gc. If you value less noise, smoother ride, better seats, nicer interior, I would say get a Lexus instead since it does all of those better than BMW. |
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I think some current F10 owners who found themselves ultimately unsatisfied with the current F10's size and handling would consider the 4GC regardless of its less luxurious and refined interior/leathers/options. Sure it's a downgrade but it might be a better fit for some folks. The 4GC's very usable trunk helps also make up for its lack of size.
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2. The 5 series will handle better than its counterparts from both Lexus and MB. The A6 may be a run for the money in handling. 3. A 20mph turn in the 5 series isn't going to upset anything. Equip the car with the sport suspension or DHP and it'll handle fantastically for its class. Will it handle like a 3 series? No. It's bigger and heavier - duh. But with size and luxury comes weight compromise... and some amount of performance. But I can say with confidence after driving 3 series cars for 13+ years, I push the 5 as hard or harder than I ever pushed my 3's. It takes every ounce of it in stride. I've never once been at a loss for performance or found myself saying, "better slow down for this turn I used to take at this speed in the 335!" Just doesn't happen. Now, there's certainly a target audience for the 3/4. And if you want that extra ounce of confidence and nimble feeling, and you're willing to sacrifice the space and luxury for it, that's great - I did it for years, and it was the right move for me during that time. But there's certainly a personal decision that needs to be made and real trade-offs to consider.
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I had 3 straight E Classes, and the F10 is on another level in luxury. It is by far the most luxurious and smoothest/comfortable in class, has higher safety ratings and is about 30% more torsionally rigid than the E Class. As Motor Trend said "it feels like how Mercedes used to". The E Class interior doesn't really compare, nor does the interior quietness or isolation, especially considering the M Sport F10 is still far more sporty. The Lexus GS is just a dud. Drives well, but doesn't look nor feel as expensive as a 5 Series all in all, nor does an A6, IMO. To me, the F10 with M suspension is the most dynamic car in class, "dynamic" because nobody does luxury + sport better than it. Others will do sportiness better, such as the A6, but they fall behind in the various other areas the F10 is so effortlessly good at. Being a basically sized down copy of the 7 Series, using the same chassis that's so over-engineered for this price range that it houses said 7 and the Rolls Royce Ghost, the F10 gets a bit leg up to its competition. IMO the 3 Series interior is a joke, utterly cheap and the whole experience isn't at the refinement or luxury level of the 5, not even close. I also don't find the 4GC that attractive as it's less "Coupe" looking and more "Hot Hatch/Mini Sport Wagon". I personally prefer the F10 looks. To O/P, the problem is that you have a 2011 F10 with no suspension mods, basically the worst combo unfortunately. A 2013+ model with the 704 M suspension will probably give you the sportiness and luxury you seek. Most guys who go from 2011 to 2013+ 704 F10's note a night and day "this is how a BMW should drive" difference.
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05-28-2014, 02:24 PM | #22 |
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The problem with 5 series is extra weight/ big dimensions
The problem with 3/4 series is less luxury My car is almost 4 years old and I have really enjoyed it, I am not going to do suspension mods now. I have already swapped the RFTs for regular tires, which has improved the road feel a lot.
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