BMS Stage 1 Check Engine Light (n63)

Teddylongtooth · 10-06-2015, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Zer0Cool92

What do you think would be a fair labor price to have them installed ? Sounds pretty simple .

Anything over 2 hours their ripping you off, anything under 2 hours and your getting a deal. It can be done in less than 1 hour, but most shops go by the recommended labor hours.

Ben2k9 · 10-08-2015, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Zer0Cool92

It doesn't say that my coils were changed on the invoice. Are coils part of the CCP ?

Nope.

Zer0Cool92 · 10-08-2015, 07:33 PM

Just got my spark plugs changed. Check engine light is still on and car still jerks under hard acceleration. Could it be the ignition coils ?

Still haven't taken my chip off either.. Doing that tonight.. Hopefully it goes away.

Simple5 · 10-08-2015, 09:44 PM

Sucks you don't have a way to check codes. If you did have a misfire from a certain back you could swap the coil to another bank to see if the misfire follows.

mike@x-ph.com · 10-08-2015, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Simple3

Sucks you don't have a way to check codes. If you did have a misfire from a certain back you could swap the coil to another bank to see if the misfire follows.

He can always get a cheap OBD reader from Autozone

Zer0Cool92 · 10-08-2015, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Simple3

Sucks you don't have a way to check codes. If you did have a misfire from a certain back you could swap the coil to another bank to see if the misfire follows.

I'm pretty sure it's coils. I'm planning on swapping all 8 of them with new ones.

The car is running smooth again after I took the chip out, feels faster than before I put the chip in. I guess that's because new plugs. But the check engine light is still on.. I'm gona drive it around for a while and see if it goes away

Zer0Cool92 · 10-08-2015, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

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Originally Posted by Simple3

Sucks you don't have a way to check codes. If you did have a misfire from a certain back you could swap the coil to another bank to see if the misfire follows.

He can always get a cheap OBD reader from Autozone

I think they can come out to your car and check the code on the spot at autozone , right ?

Simple5 · 10-09-2015, 04:39 AM

In my area they don't do it anymore. I'm almost certain one or more of your coil packs are gone. Try unplugging the battery for 10 min and see if it clears the codes... add for the coil packs... rockauto is your friend...

Go on ebay and buy an autel AL319.. it's 40 bucks and they are also sold on Dinan's site for 70 bucks... will read and clear codes...

Zer0Cool92 · 10-09-2015, 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Simple3

In my area they don't do it anymore. I'm almost certain one or more of your coil packs are gone. Try unplugging the battery for 10 min and see if it clears the codes... add for the coil packs... rockauto is your friend...

Go on ebay and buy an autel AL319.. it's 40 bucks and they are also sold on Dinan's site for 70 bucks... will read and clear codes...

Okay thanks for the help man, will do. I have the bms can tool.. Doesn't that also diagnose codes or just clear them ?

And on rock autos site there is the Bosch ignition coils ($28 a piece) and SPM ignition coils ($42 a piece). Which is OEM ? And which would you recommend ? Price is not a concern , looking for the better quality one. Thanks again !

Simple5 · 10-09-2015, 06:09 AM

I've used rockauto coils on my n54... no issues when I had misfires. Rockauto is legit. Definitely order from them. Good luck dude. Your coils were probably on the way out and the stage 1 pushed them over the edge....

Zer0Cool92 · 10-09-2015, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Simple3

I've used rockauto coils on my n54... no issues when I had misfires. Rockauto is legit. Definitely order from them. Good luck dude. Your coils were probably on the way out and the stage 1 pushed them over the edge....

Ya I had a feeling either coils or plugs would go when I put the chip in.

Which coils would you recommend , the Bosch or SMP ?

Took chip out, car idles a little rough, but check engine light is gone and power delivery is smooth again

Simple5 · 10-09-2015, 01:01 PM

Bosch is oem equipment so go with them.

Teddylongtooth · 10-09-2015, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Zer0Cool92

Ya I had a feeling either coils or plugs would go when I put the chip in.

Which coils would you recommend , the Bosch or SMP ?

Took chip out, car idles a little rough, but check engine light is gone and power delivery is smooth again

Bro, get this setup and you can see your sensors, get codes and clear them. I can check O2 sensors, fuel pressure and other things like boost, engine temp, air intake temp. It's only 16 bucks plus $5 dollars for the torque app. It's the cheapest way get data but, it only runs on android so I went and bought a galaxy tablet just for the myobd2. Without something like this your in the dark.

Zer0Cool92 · 10-09-2015, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Teddylongtooth

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Originally Posted by Zer0Cool92

Ya I had a feeling either coils or plugs would go when I put the chip in.

Which coils would you recommend , the Bosch or SMP ?

Took chip out, car idles a little rough, but check engine light is gone and power delivery is smooth again

Bro, get this setup and you can see your sensors, get codes and clear them. I can check O2 sensors, fuel pressure and other things like boost, engine temp, air intake temp. It's only 16 bucks plus $5 dollars for the torque app. It's the cheapest way get data but, it only runs on android so I went and bought a galaxy tablet just for the myobd2. Without something like this your in the dark.

Appreciate the help man. Ya I got an android phone sitting around somewhere in my house now I can put it to use .

Teddylongtooth · 10-10-2015, 03:10 PM

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Appreciate the help man. Ya I got an android phone sitting around somewhere in my house now I can put it to use .

No problem, just helping a brother out. If you do get the "MYOBD2" and the torque app, there are videos on you tube to show how it works.

badblack550xi · 10-11-2015, 02:49 PM

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Appreciate the help man. Ya I got an android phone sitting around somewhere in my house now I can put it to use .

You can use it on Apple also

Teddylongtooth · 10-11-2015, 05:53 PM

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You can use it on Apple also

Not the "MYOBD2 and TORQUE APP" you can't. There are other apps that will work with iPhone but not this combo.^^^^

Zer0Cool92 · 10-17-2015, 12:23 AM

So I got my ignition coils , spark plugs changed. Put the bms stage 1 back in and check engine light came on again. Car still jerks hard when I get on the gas..

Could it be running aggressive settings? I bought the bms used from Igor and he said he set it to default but I will have to take off the stage 1 and check it for myself.

Teddylongtooth · 10-17-2015, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Zer0Cool92

So I got my ignition coils , spark plugs changed. Put the bms stage 1 back in and check engine light came on again. Car still jerks hard when I get on the gas..

Could it be running aggressive settings? I bought the bms used from Igor and he said he set it to default but I will have to take off the stage 1 and check it for myself.

Sure would be nice to know what code is being thrown, that should tell you alot.

Zer0Cool92 · 10-17-2015, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Teddylongtooth

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Originally Posted by Zer0Cool92

So I got my ignition coils , spark plugs changed. Put the bms stage 1 back in and check engine light came on again. Car still jerks hard when I get on the gas..

Could it be running aggressive settings? I bought the bms used from Igor and he said he set it to default but I will have to take off the stage 1 and check it for myself.

Sure would be nice to know what code is being thrown, that should tell you alot.

Ya I'm having my buddy plug it in and check it later tonight. But what else could be possible issues?

Aggressive settings?

badblack550xi · 10-17-2015, 12:24 PM

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Ya I'm having my buddy plug it in and check it later tonight. But what else could be possible issues?

Aggressive settings?

Highly doubt it sounds like a boost leak.

Zer0Cool92 · 10-17-2015, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Zer0Cool92

Ya I'm having my buddy plug it in and check it later tonight. But what else could be possible issues?

Aggressive settings?

Highly doubt it sounds like a boost leak.

What's a good way to test for where the boost leak is coming from ?

10-08-2015, 07:33 PM	#25
Zer0Cool92 Captain 106 Rep 736 Posts Drives: blue metallic Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: st. louis iTrader: (1)	Just got my spark plugs changed. Check engine light is still on and car still jerks under hard acceleration. Could it be the ignition coils ? Still haven't taken my chip off either.. Doing that tonight.. Hopefully it goes away.
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10-08-2015, 09:44 PM	#26
Simple5 Major 347 Rep 1,396 Posts Drives: 2013 M5 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: USA iTrader: (8)	Sucks you don't have a way to check codes. If you did have a misfire from a certain back you could swap the coil to another bank to see if the misfire follows.
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10-09-2015, 04:39 AM	#30
Simple5 Major 347 Rep 1,396 Posts Drives: 2013 M5 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: USA iTrader: (8)	In my area they don't do it anymore. I'm almost certain one or more of your coil packs are gone. Try unplugging the battery for 10 min and see if it clears the codes... add for the coil packs... rockauto is your friend... Go on ebay and buy an autel AL319.. it's 40 bucks and they are also sold on Dinan's site for 70 bucks... will read and clear codes...
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10-09-2015, 06:09 AM	#32
Simple5 Major 347 Rep 1,396 Posts Drives: 2013 M5 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: USA iTrader: (8)	I've used rockauto coils on my n54... no issues when I had misfires. Rockauto is legit. Definitely order from them. Good luck dude. Your coils were probably on the way out and the stage 1 pushed them over the edge....
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10-09-2015, 01:01 PM	#34
Simple5 Major 347 Rep 1,396 Posts Drives: 2013 M5 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: USA iTrader: (8)	Bosch is oem equipment so go with them.
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10-17-2015, 12:23 AM	#40
Zer0Cool92 Captain 106 Rep 736 Posts Drives: blue metallic Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: st. louis iTrader: (1)	So I got my ignition coils , spark plugs changed. Put the bms stage 1 back in and check engine light came on again. Car still jerks hard when I get on the gas.. Could it be running aggressive settings? I bought the bms used from Igor and he said he set it to default but I will have to take off the stage 1 and check it for myself.
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