Windshield need replace

gtmassive75 · 06-28-2015, 08:06 PM

Just saw my windshield and its shattered all over. Found a brick sitting by the wiper. Car was park..
Anyway, my car have HUD, LD etc. I called GEICO and they told me if I have the dealer change the windshield, I'm responsible for the workmanship over $40hr..
Also if their affiliates don't have the aftermarket in stock, then they can approve OEM..
My comprehensive is covering glass... Should I contact Safelite or just take the car to the dealer. They mention if the car goes to the dealer I will have to pay out of pocket and then file for reimbursement.

Need some help here, how should I approach this..

Thanks
Steve

lsturbointeg · 06-28-2015, 08:31 PM

Ouch!

I think as long as BMW approves u should be fine. I would rather go through the insurance since that's what u pay all that money for. If anything if the insurance does it try to really push for OEM.

BMWrules7 · 06-28-2015, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gtmassive75

Just saw my windshield and its shattered all over. Found a brick sitting by the wiper. Car was park..
Anyway, my car have HUD, LD etc. I called GEICO and they told me if I have the dealer change the windshield, I'm responsible for the workmanship over $40hr..
Also if their affiliates don't have the aftermarket in stock, then they can approve OEM..
My comprehensive is covering glass... Should I contact Safelite or just take the car to the dealer. They mention if the car goes to the dealer I will have to pay out of pocket and then file for reimbursement.

Need some help here, how should I approach this..

Thanks
Steve

I just did 3 windshields in 4 months.

I just paid for the dealer directly. My State Farm agent cut me a check for the full amount less deductible after my sending the invoice via email.

You should tell your insurance company to fix it---they took the risk with a BMW and BMWs cost more.

It makes me so angry when I hear bull crap like that $40 limit.

You should seriously find new insurance if they refuse to promptly let the dealer fix the car. The only thing you should pay is your deductible.

geminiys · 06-28-2015, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by gtmassive75

Just saw my windshield and its shattered all over. Found a brick sitting by the wiper. Car was park..
Anyway, my car have HUD, LD etc. I called GEICO and they told me if I have the dealer change the windshield, I'm responsible for the workmanship over $40hr..
Also if their affiliates don't have the aftermarket in stock, then they can approve OEM..
My comprehensive is covering glass... Should I contact Safelite or just take the car to the dealer. They mention if the car goes to the dealer I will have to pay out of pocket and then file for reimbursement.

Need some help here, how should I approach this..

Thanks
Steve

Avoid using Safelite. Their glass material is a bit softer than other aftermarket brands causing to have a lot of chips from little rocks flying in when driving. I would go with OEM from BMW even if you have to pay out of packet.

lsturbointeg · 06-28-2015, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by geminiys

Avoid using Safelite. Their glass material is a bit softer than other aftermarket brands causing to have a lot of chips from little rocks flying in when driving. I would go with OEM from BMW even if you have to pay out of packet.

Good to know!

gtmassive75 · 06-29-2015, 08:51 AM

good info guys..with Geico for over 15yrs and never file a claim, and now this BS..

The X Men · 06-29-2015, 10:02 AM

Most dealers sub out their windshield work. I would go to the dealer and ask them who is their glass guy and use them directly. BMW windshield can cost over $1000 more than aftermarket or OEM. Most BMW windshields are made by St. Gobain-Sekurit, I would try to find a glass guy that sells St. Gobain-Sekurit windshield. Its pretty much the same windshield but without the BMW logo and at aftermarket price. Most insurance companies will not pay the dealer's rate for glass work. If the glass installer does a lot of BMW, the workmanship should be the same if not better than the dealer.

gtmassive75 · 06-29-2015, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by The X Men

Most dealers sub out their windshield work. I would go to the dealer and ask them who is their glass guy and use them directly. BMW windshield can cost over $1000 more than aftermarket or OEM. Most BMW windshields are made by St. Gobain-Sekurit, I would try to find a glass guy that sells St. Gobain-Sekurit windshield. Its pretty much the same windshield but without the BMW logo and at aftermarket price. Most insurance companies will not pay the dealer's rate for glass work. If the glass installer does a lot of BMW, the workmanship should be the same if not better than the dealer.

Thanks for that info X Men..

gtmassive75 · 06-29-2015, 01:01 PM

Spoke to Rallye BMW, cost will be $2400 out of my pocket, then try to get back it from the insurance.
Spoke to Geico, they approve BMW glass from Safelite(was told the glass will have a BMW stamp on it), Geico will cover all expense, since i have glass coverage. No out of pocket cost to me. Geico paying Safelite around $1000, was told work is warrantied.

Need more info, to make this call.. Geico keep telling me that they wont covered the over charge by the dealer.. only $40hr.

mko9 · 06-29-2015, 01:30 PM

Safelite will bring you a piece of BMW glass. Replacing windows is all they do. It won't cost you a penny. What is still in question??

dbs600 · 06-29-2015, 03:44 PM

Note that Safelite uses their own adhesive / epoxy that I hear cures / dries too quickly, and if the dealer does a proper job, the BMW adhesive / epoxy cures / dries more slowly to ensure complete bond / seal.

Keep us posted!

lsturbointeg · 06-29-2015, 05:15 PM

Damn!

$2g's for a windshield! And now there's a difference on Epoxy used... how do u guys know this $hit?

I mean does it really matter?

dbs600 · 06-29-2015, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by lsturbointeg

Does it really matter?

Not to say Safelite can't get it right, but yes, matters if you don't want squeaks, rattles, leaks...

lsturbointeg · 06-29-2015, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dbs600

Not to say Safelite can't get it right, but yes, matters if you don't want squeaks, rattles, leaks...

Got it!

mko9 · 06-30-2015, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geminiys

Avoid using Safelite. Their glass material is a bit softer than other aftermarket brands causing to have a lot of chips from little rocks flying in when driving. I would go with OEM from BMW even if you have to pay out of packet.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbs600

Note that Safelite uses their own adhesive / epoxy that I hear cures / dries too quickly, and if the dealer does a proper job, the BMW adhesive / epoxy cures / dries more slowly to ensure complete bond / seal.

Keep us posted!

Got tech?

ezaircon4jc · 06-30-2015, 08:02 PM

I have had Safelite replace about 6 windshields over the years. I have never had a problem with leakage or wind noise. The only issue was when they used generic glass and it was seriously distorted along the bottom.

gtmassive75 · 06-30-2015, 08:26 PM

update.. according to GEICO, they have approved an OEM glass with safelite.. i'm assuming its BMW glass ?

lsturbointeg · 06-30-2015, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by gtmassive75

update.. according to GEICO, they have approved an OEM glass with safelite.. i'm assuming its BMW glass ?

As long as BMW has their name stamped at the bottom.

Apple Corps · 07-04-2015, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dbs600

Note that Safelite uses their own adhesive / epoxy that I hear cures / dries too quickly, and if the dealer does a proper job, the BMW adhesive / epoxy cures / dries more slowly to ensure complete bond / seal.

Keep us posted!

I'm not aware of epoxy being used for windshield installation. Advanced polyurethane structural adhesives are what comes to mind.

dbs600 · 07-04-2015, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Apple Corps

I'm not aware of epoxy being used for windshield installation. Advanced polyurethane structural adhesives are what comes to mind.

Why thank you Apple Corps.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-Windshie...-/300960465398

Apple Corps · 07-06-2015, 07:49 PM

I see epoxy mentioned in the ebay write up but still have my doubts about epoxy being used.

Just Googled the topic on a number of sites and urethane adhesives are what is used - just as I originally thought.

It is possible that epoxy is used for the rear view mirror but the windshield is bonded to the car with polyurethane adhesive.

martin mustang · 07-07-2015, 02:24 AM

Make sure in the installation takes good care of sensors above the interior mirror, my advice take a picture before and make sure after is the same, i.e. when the gel is applied around the sensors! see my tread after replacing my one and getting confused about the headlight sensor, the dealer thinking it was an air bubble! http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1091963

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gtmassive75 Captain 361 Rep 815 Posts Drives: G05 X5,G20 M340,Infiniti Q50RS Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Queens,NY/Palm Bay, FL iTrader: (2)	Windshield need replace Just saw my windshield and its shattered all over. Found a brick sitting by the wiper. Car was park.. Anyway, my car have HUD, LD etc. I called GEICO and they told me if I have the dealer change the windshield, I'm responsible for the workmanship over $40hr.. Also if their affiliates don't have the aftermarket in stock, then they can approve OEM.. My comprehensive is covering glass... Should I contact Safelite or just take the car to the dealer. They mention if the car goes to the dealer I will have to pay out of pocket and then file for reimbursement. Need some help here, how should I approach this.. Thanks Steve __________________ 2020 G05 MSport 40i--Phytonic Blue Metallic/Vernasca Coffee Leather/Multi Contour SeatsTrim/Executive Package/MSport Brakes/Icon Adaptive Led HeadlightsW/Laserlight/Harman Kardon/Heated Front Seats Armrests & Steering
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lsturbointeg Lieutenant General 9153 Rep 14,522 Posts Drives: 2011 535i Jet Black Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Asian lost in OH iTrader: (0)	Ouch! I think as long as BMW approves u should be fine. I would rather go through the insurance since that's what u pay all that money for. If anything if the insurance does it try to really push for OEM.
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gtmassive75 Captain 361 Rep 815 Posts Drives: G05 X5,G20 M340,Infiniti Q50RS Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Queens,NY/Palm Bay, FL iTrader: (2)	good info guys..with Geico for over 15yrs and never file a claim, and now this BS.. __________________ 2020 G05 MSport 40i--Phytonic Blue Metallic/Vernasca Coffee Leather/Multi Contour SeatsTrim/Executive Package/MSport Brakes/Icon Adaptive Led HeadlightsW/Laserlight/Harman Kardon/Heated Front Seats Armrests & Steering
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The X Men Colonel 99 Rep 2,323 Posts Drives: 2013 X3 35i Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: MA iTrader: (0)	Most dealers sub out their windshield work. I would go to the dealer and ask them who is their glass guy and use them directly. BMW windshield can cost over $1000 more than aftermarket or OEM. Most BMW windshields are made by St. Gobain-Sekurit, I would try to find a glass guy that sells St. Gobain-Sekurit windshield. Its pretty much the same windshield but without the BMW logo and at aftermarket price. Most insurance companies will not pay the dealer's rate for glass work. If the glass installer does a lot of BMW, the workmanship should be the same if not better than the dealer.
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gtmassive75 Captain 361 Rep 815 Posts Drives: G05 X5,G20 M340,Infiniti Q50RS Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Queens,NY/Palm Bay, FL iTrader: (2)	Spoke to Rallye BMW, cost will be $2400 out of my pocket, then try to get back it from the insurance. Spoke to Geico, they approve BMW glass from Safelite(was told the glass will have a BMW stamp on it), Geico will cover all expense, since i have glass coverage. No out of pocket cost to me. Geico paying Safelite around $1000, was told work is warrantied. Need more info, to make this call.. Geico keep telling me that they wont covered the over charge by the dealer.. only $40hr. __________________ 2020 G05 MSport 40i--Phytonic Blue Metallic/Vernasca Coffee Leather/Multi Contour SeatsTrim/Executive Package/MSport Brakes/Icon Adaptive Led HeadlightsW/Laserlight/Harman Kardon/Heated Front Seats Armrests & Steering Last edited by gtmassive75; 06-29-2015 at 01:07 PM..
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mko9 Second Lieutenant 56 Rep 244 Posts Drives: '11 535i Join Date: May 2014 Location: Yorktown, VA iTrader: (1)	Safelite will bring you a piece of BMW glass. Replacing windows is all they do. It won't cost you a penny. What is still in question?? __________________ Mike '04 330i ZHP '11 535i
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dbs600 Colonel 266 Rep 2,246 Posts Drives: 2011 750LXi Individual Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: New York, NY iTrader: (0)	Note that Safelite uses their own adhesive / epoxy that I hear cures / dries too quickly, and if the dealer does a proper job, the BMW adhesive / epoxy cures / dries more slowly to ensure complete bond / seal. Keep us posted! Last edited by dbs600; 06-29-2015 at 05:52 PM..
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lsturbointeg Lieutenant General 9153 Rep 14,522 Posts Drives: 2011 535i Jet Black Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Asian lost in OH iTrader: (0)	Damn! $2g's for a windshield! And now there's a difference on Epoxy used... how do u guys know this $hit? I mean does it really matter?
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ezaircon4jc Major General 4475 Rep 5,353 Posts Drives: 2019 540i M Sport Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: San Diego iTrader: (0)	I have had Safelite replace about 6 windshields over the years. I have never had a problem with leakage or wind noise. The only issue was when they used generic glass and it was seriously distorted along the bottom.
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gtmassive75 Captain 361 Rep 815 Posts Drives: G05 X5,G20 M340,Infiniti Q50RS Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Queens,NY/Palm Bay, FL iTrader: (2)	update.. according to GEICO, they have approved an OEM glass with safelite.. i'm assuming its BMW glass ? __________________ 2020 G05 MSport 40i--Phytonic Blue Metallic/Vernasca Coffee Leather/Multi Contour SeatsTrim/Executive Package/MSport Brakes/Icon Adaptive Led HeadlightsW/Laserlight/Harman Kardon/Heated Front Seats Armrests & Steering
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Apple Corps First Lieutenant 114 Rep 346 Posts Drives: 2018 X5 M Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: California iTrader: (0)	I see epoxy mentioned in the ebay write up but still have my doubts about epoxy being used. Just Googled the topic on a number of sites and urethane adhesives are what is used - just as I originally thought. It is possible that epoxy is used for the rear view mirror but the windshield is bonded to the car with polyurethane adhesive. Last edited by Apple Corps; 07-06-2015 at 08:07 PM.. Reason: Confirming info...
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martin mustang Major 257 Rep 1,040 Posts Drives: 640d,X5 45e, 911c4s, 635csi Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Ireland iTrader: (0)	Make sure in the installation takes good care of sensors above the interior mirror, my advice take a picture before and make sure after is the same, i.e. when the gel is applied around the sensors! see my tread after replacing my one and getting confused about the headlight sensor, the dealer thinking it was an air bubble! http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1091963
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