F**k YOU BMW TAKE SOME RESPONSIBILITY

Bmw doubles · 03-01-2016, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by lsturbointeg

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Originally Posted by EL Jeffe 5

I know this sounds crazy what fuel are you using. If you use anything but premium you will have issue with misfiring and other issues that comes with fuel.

my dealer told me i could use 89 with no issues??

You could if you had to just don't drive it hard

EL Jeffe 5 · 03-01-2016, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by lsturbointeg

my dealer told me i could use 89 with no issues??

I would never put 89 in my BMW.
I read here on forum some members using low grade fuel then they started experiencing issues with fuel system.

however I do put 89 in my maxima and expedition.

lsturbointeg · 03-01-2016, 10:07 PM

okay cool...what about 91?

Bmw doubles · 03-02-2016, 12:48 AM

The lower octane is not going to ruin your fuel system. The higher the octane, the higher the ignition point which in turn can be compressed further before ignition thus giving you a bigger explosion converted to power. Lower octane is the opposite and could explode too early which would cause knock. If lower octane was ran for long periods and you avoided knock by not driving hard, the worst you would probably see is faster carbon build up.

We have high compression engines which is why BMW recommends higher octane. 91, 93 or even race gas. My favorite is e30 blend, 60% 91 / 40% e85 = 95oct

ezaircon4jc · 03-02-2016, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by lsturbointeg

okay cool...what about 91?

We only have 91 available in The People's Republik...

dbs600 · 03-02-2016, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bmw doubles

My favorite is e30 blend, 60% 91 / 40% e85 = 95oct

Isn't ethanol a main culprit of leaking injectors due to corrosion, and carbon buildup thereby?

Bmw doubles · 03-02-2016, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dbs600

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Originally Posted by Bmw doubles

My favorite is e30 blend, 60% 91 / 40% e85 = 95oct

Isn't ethanol a main culprit of leaking injectors due to corrosion, and carbon buildup thereby?

There's no proof with newer model vehicles that ethanol is corrosive to newer compounds used in seals. Leaky injectors and bad hpfp's have been a long standing problem for BMW regardless of fuel used. Carbon build up is inherent with gasoline, no avoiding that one unless you have a tesla. I think we're hijacking this thread.

dbs600 · 03-02-2016, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bmw doubles

There's no proof with newer model vehicles that ethanol is corrosive to newer compounds used in seals. Leaky injectors and bad hpfp's have been a long standing problem for BMW regardless of fuel used. Carbon build up is inherent with gasoline, no avoiding that one unless you have a tesla. I think we're hijacking this thread.

True; didn't realize; thanks for the info.

And sorry; didn't mean to hijack the thread.

Thanks again!

weissja · 03-03-2016, 05:30 PM

Are you sure that the lemon law in Michigan is not applicable for CPO cars? California lemon law applies to vehicles under a manufacturer's warranty. Just make sure you check with a competent attorney.

mnhomes · 03-03-2016, 05:36 PM

Yes it does not apply here in michigan! Today I just filed complaints with the BBB and NHTSA. Doubt it will do much good! I guess I'll take the car back to the dealer again next week for another Drivetrain malfunction.

weissja · 03-03-2016, 05:42 PM

Sorry about your continuing problems. Unfortunately, the BBB won't be of much help. They even get confused about how the California lemon law applies to CPO vehicles. Just keep hammering BMW corporate. Good luck.

mnhomes · 03-05-2016, 01:11 PM

Bmw just reached out to me after I filed the complaint with the BBB. The BBB must work fast cause 3 days after I filed the complaint bmw came calling about the matter. I'll keep you guys posted with the outcome. Not getting my hopes up though.

Spied4US · 03-06-2016, 08:02 AM

I learned decades ago if you want to get your complaint into the hands of someone who will actually respond in a professional manner, file a lawsuit. None of the silliness about "seeing an attorney." File suit. It doesn't even have to be particularly well drafted. You will be stunned at how quickly the matter is resolved.

gatorfast · 03-06-2016, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by lsturbointeg

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Originally Posted by EL Jeffe 5

I know this sounds crazy what fuel are you using. If you use anything but premium you will have issue with misfiring and other issues that comes with fuel.

my dealer told me i could use 89 with no issues??

No way. Manual and gas cap specifically state minimum octane of 91aki.

Rearview · 03-06-2016, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mnhomes

No way to do lemon law in michigan on a used car. I am waiting to hear back about doing a breach of warranty lawsuit.

breach of warranty??? They covered you via CPO! YOU BOUGHT A USED CAR.

Suck it up & as others have stated, take the $3k and run!

mnhomes · 03-06-2016, 08:30 PM

Breach of warranty is a difficult one cause they are still trying to repair the car. It will only come in to play if they refuse to service the vehicle.

EL Jeffe 5 · 03-06-2016, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by lsturbointeg

okay cool...what about 91?

91 is best I can get in my state so yes that's all I put in my car.

lsturbointeg · 03-06-2016, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by EL Jeffe 5

91 is best I can get in my state so yes that's all I put in my car.

We have 91 and 93

BMWrules7 · 03-09-2016, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by lsturbointeg

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Originally Posted by EL Jeffe 5

91 is best I can get in my state so yes that's all I put in my car.

We have 91 and 93

Why, with gas prices at historic lows---or darn near it, would this issue be an issue?

ezaircon4jc · 03-10-2016, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by BMWrules7

Why, with gas prices at historic lows---or darn near it, would this issue be an issue?

I don't know about historic lows... I remember $.29.9!

OnlyTruth · 02-21-2018, 12:00 AM

How did the story end?

BTW did you have to pay $50 for each CPO visit?

Cmfigueroa16 · 03-02-2018, 08:59 AM

Make sure you have full coverage and crash it. That's what I did

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