Mission Performance stage 2 F10 N55 flash updates

Bmw doubles · 10-24-2016, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by bin01123

@Bmw doubles Thanks for sharing. Love learning all this information about our vehicles and kudos to you for leading the charge. Did MissionPerformance say what a stage 1.5 tune entails?

It's probably going to be the difference between 315/400 and 325/450. Also you may run the risk of faster wear and tear on your DP and turbo due heat.

Stück · 10-24-2016, 11:35 AM

Bmw doubles Thanks for spending some time with Alex last night with your car, hopefully this means moar powerz for me too :-)

Bmw doubles · 10-24-2016, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Stück

Bmw doubles Thanks for spending some time with Alex last night with your car, hopefully this means moar powerz for me too :-)

He has updates for you. We spoke about your tune. What year is your car?

Stück · 10-24-2016, 11:49 AM

Yup I spoke to him last night, he mentioned this update! My car is 3/2014.

Bmw doubles · 10-24-2016, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Stück

Yup I spoke to him last night, he mentioned this update! My car is 3/2014.

Lucky

Stück · 10-24-2016, 01:12 PM

I'm not sure how much validity there is to the size differences. I show the same turbocharging unit from 1/09 to 7/14 where the EWG took over... although these is a production split at 7/13, but it shows the same PN pre and post.

PM: 11 65 7 583 908.

RealOEM lists the WRONG DP flange gasket for my VIN, a 18 30 7 581 970. Where as my car physically uses the 18 30 7 553 601 PN gasket.

If Alex is making his summation based of the DP gasket there is definitely a problem with the ETK data.

The 970 flange seal is about 1/2" larger in diameter than the 601.

Bmw doubles · 10-24-2016, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by StÃ¼ck

I'm not sure how much validity there is to the size differences. I show the same turbocharging unit from 1/09 to 7/14 where the EWG took over... although these is a production split at 7/13, but it shows the same PN pre and post.

PM: 11 65 7 583 908.

RealOEM lists the WRONG DP flange gasket for my VIN, a 18 30 7 581 970. Where as my car physically uses the 18 30 7 553 601 PN gasket.

If Alex is making his summation based of the DP gasket there is definitely a problem with the ETK data.

The 970 flange seal is about 1/2" larger in diameter than the 601.

Interesting, Alex did mention they sometimes list wrong part numbers on that site. Please make him aware of this when you get a chance.

Stück · 10-24-2016, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Bmw doubles

Interesting, Alex did mention they sometimes list wrong part numbers on that site. Please make him aware of this when you get a chance.

I will when I speak with him this evening. I thought it was just a RealOEM anomaly, but I verified with the dealer by the VIN the current ETK also has the same erroneous information.

bin01123 · 10-24-2016, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bmw doubles

It's probably going to be the difference between 315/400 and 325/450. Also you may run the risk of faster wear and tear on your DP and turbo due heat.

Bmw doubles Sounds like an Intercooler should be required for the 1.5 tune to help with the heat. My car is built in 07/2012 so I guess I can't go too crazy.

Bmw doubles · 10-24-2016, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by bin01123

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Originally Posted by Bmw doubles

It's probably going to be the difference between 315/400 and 325/450. Also you may run the risk of faster wear and tear on your DP and turbo due heat.

Bmw doubles Sounds like an Intercooler should be required for the 1.5 tune to help with the heat. My car is built in 07/2012 so I guess I can't go too crazy.

I believe that would help, expelling exhaust as quickly as possible is a big factor too.

ezaircon4jc · 10-24-2016, 05:26 PM

Bmw doubles.... Question...

I've been wading through this thread and I'm getting a bit dizzy

Is there an option that I can get that utilizes the stock pieces, ups the HP and doesn't shorten the life of the stock parts? I plan on keeping the car for well over 150K miles.

THANKS!!

Bmw doubles · 10-24-2016, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ezaircon4jc

Bmw doubles.... Question...

I've been wading through this thread and I'm getting a bit dizzy

Is there an option that I can get that utilizes the stock pieces, ups the HP and doesn't shorten the life of the stock parts? I plan on keeping the car for well over 150K miles.

THANKS!!

Stage 1 is for you. All stock parts. It's about 315/420
http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1234463

bin01123 · 10-24-2016, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bmw doubles

I believe that would help, expelling exhaust as quickly as possible is a big factor too.

Sounds like I should stick with stage 1 since I don't want to deal with the back n forth between stock and after market downpipes.

ezaircon4jc · 10-24-2016, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Bmw doubles

Stage 1 is for you. All stock parts. It's about 315/420
http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1234463

THANKS!!!!

ziekxq · 10-25-2016, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Bmw doubles

Stage 1 is for you. All stock parts. It's about 315/420
http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1234463

What if you already have a downpipe installed maybe stage 1.5 then?

Bmw doubles · 10-25-2016, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ziekxq

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Originally Posted by Bmw doubles

Stage 1 is for you. All stock parts. It's about 315/420
http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1234463

What if you already have a downpipe installed maybe stage 1.5 then?

If you got that go stage 2! Stage 3 is upgrading custom compressor and turbine wheels, or pure replacement.

DigitalNav · 10-25-2016, 11:42 AM

Im getting my RaceChip dyno done today... curious to see just how close or far apart then dyno looks compared to Mission.

Bmw doubles · 10-25-2016, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DigitalNav

Im getting my RaceChip dyno done today... curious to see just how close or far apart then dyno looks compared to Mission.

Looking forward to that

Stück · 10-25-2016, 08:42 PM

Alex got me all sorted out this evening, car is running better than ever :-)

Now I wait for the Pure Stage2 turbo to arrive next week!

DigitalNav · 10-25-2016, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Stück

Alex got me all sorted out this evening, car is running better than ever :-)

Now I wait for the Pure Stage2 turbo to arrive next week!

How much WHP and TRQ you looking at with what youve done? Youre on the stock auto 535i transmission right?

Stück · 10-25-2016, 09:02 PM

I'm hoping to be able to push 450whp/450wtq with the Pure Stage 2 turbo on stock fueling. Yes this is with the 8HP45 auto.

The turbo itself will do 525whp/500wtq with supplemental fueling, but I'm not looking to go there right now (if ever) Not really practical on a daily driver to me, not to mention not cheap. A solid port injection system costs as much as the Pure stage 2 turbo does!

vivanapoli806 · 10-25-2016, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Stück

Alex got me all sorted out this evening, car is running better than ever :-)

Now I wait for the Pure Stage2 turbo to arrive next week!

Idk if you already posted but what are your current numbers and current mods before going stage 2?

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Stück Major 801 Rep 1,214 Posts Drives: F15 X5, E46 330i, R56 Mini.S Join Date: May 2016 Location: Houston, TX iTrader: (4)	Yup I spoke to him last night, he mentioned this update! My car is 3/2014.
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Stück Major 801 Rep 1,214 Posts Drives: F15 X5, E46 330i, R56 Mini.S Join Date: May 2016 Location: Houston, TX iTrader: (4)	I'm not sure how much validity there is to the size differences. I show the same turbocharging unit from 1/09 to 7/14 where the EWG took over... although these is a production split at 7/13, but it shows the same PN pre and post. PM: 11 65 7 583 908. RealOEM lists the WRONG DP flange gasket for my VIN, a 18 30 7 581 970. Where as my car physically uses the 18 30 7 553 601 PN gasket. If Alex is making his summation based of the DP gasket there is definitely a problem with the ETK data. The 970 flange seal is about 1/2" larger in diameter than the 601.
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ezaircon4jc Major General 4476 Rep 5,356 Posts Drives: 2019 540i M Sport Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: San Diego iTrader: (0)	Bmw doubles.... Question... I've been wading through this thread and I'm getting a bit dizzy Is there an option that I can get that utilizes the stock pieces, ups the HP and doesn't shorten the life of the stock parts? I plan on keeping the car for well over 150K miles. THANKS!!
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Stück Major 801 Rep 1,214 Posts Drives: F15 X5, E46 330i, R56 Mini.S Join Date: May 2016 Location: Houston, TX iTrader: (4)	Alex got me all sorted out this evening, car is running better than ever :-) Now I wait for the Pure Stage2 turbo to arrive next week!
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Stück Major 801 Rep 1,214 Posts Drives: F15 X5, E46 330i, R56 Mini.S Join Date: May 2016 Location: Houston, TX iTrader: (4)	I'm hoping to be able to push 450whp/450wtq with the Pure Stage 2 turbo on stock fueling. Yes this is with the 8HP45 auto. The turbo itself will do 525whp/500wtq with supplemental fueling, but I'm not looking to go there right now (if ever) Not really practical on a daily driver to me, not to mention not cheap. A solid port injection system costs as much as the Pure stage 2 turbo does!
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