[clymer]

Hi, I'm thinking about purchasing the 535xi w/ sport/dynamic packages. The car will be made to order. Are the vehicles that are being produced now still having the issues w/ run flats? Also, is the 535xi tires without the M package just as likely to have the bubble issues? Read all the problems that people are having and am having second thoughts about the purchase, especially since my wife will be the primary driver of this car. Any advice or information?? Thanks!

[E90Fleet]

Dont read about runflats on older models as the runflat tires have changed over the years.
Most BMW's currently have Generation 2 Runflats
The new 1 and 3 Series have been shown with the latest Generation 3 runflats which blind tests have shown are indistinguishable from "normal" tires and should start making their way to other models.

I have had e90's with Generation 1 and and Generation 2 runflats since 2006 and have never had any issies and always liked them. The Generation 1 ones had a harsher ride though.

F10 owners I know have had no complaints.

[F11-Diesel]

Originally Posted by E90Fleet

Dont read about runflats on older models as the runflat tires have changed over the years.
Most BMW's currently have Generation 2 Runflats
The new 1 and 3 Series have been shown with the latest Generation 3 runflats which blind tests have shown are indistinguishable from "normal" tires and should start making their way to other models.

I have had e90's with Generation 1 and and Generation 2 runflats since 2006 and have never had any issies and always liked them. The Generation 1 ones had a harsher ride though.

F10 owners I know have had no complaints.

You probably do not know a lot of F10 owners, look around at Bimmerfest for some more detailed information about the apreciation of RFT's. (not)

[F11-Diesel]

As for a job, did you consider selling stuff for BMW?

[efftee]

I have no problems with RFTs either. Drove them on my e60 530, then changed to regular tyres on 20" Breytons, which I half regretted. Now going back to RFTs on my new 535.

[E90Fleet]

Originally Posted by F11-Diesel

You probably do not know a lot of F10 owners, look around at Bimmerfest for some more detailed information about the apreciation of RFT's. (not)

2 F10's with family and 3 with close friends, never mind the local BMW club and RFT's fitted to other BMW models.
Not one complaint

Not saying some dont have complaints on Bimmerfest, but they represent a small % of worldwide owners and few would post about positive experiences.

[E90Fleet]

Originally Posted by F11-Diesel

As for a job, did you consider selling stuff for BMW?

Would be nice

[1HOT BMR]

I cannot find any positives to mention on the performance of my RFTs besides the fact that they are Michelin Primacy and have less of a tendency to develop bubbles on the side walls. What I hate the most about them is the severe crashing one experiences over minor pavement defects - small potholes that will not bend the wheels but sound and feel like the whole front end just felt apart - bridge seams, small changes in elevation between two sections of the road, etc., etc. On the other hand, the handling is not terrible, the ride is not too bad thanks to the electronic suspension of the F10, and the convenience of not having to stop immediately to install the spare is nice too.

If I had a choice like you apparently do I would definitely go with normal tires and a patch kit. Normal tires will give you a nicer ride, will not crash over small road imperfections and will give you far superior handling and steering feel. As soon as my first run flat goes bust I'm installing a set of Michelin SS. Oh, did I mention the cost of replacement of run flats? $450 to repair a flat?

[Chickster]

Originally Posted by E90Fleet

Dont read about runflats on older models as the runflat tires have changed over the years.
Most BMW's currently have Generation 2 Runflats
The new 1 and 3 Series have been shown with the latest Generation 3 runflats which blind tests have shown are indistinguishable from "normal" tires and should start making their way to other models.

I have had e90's with Generation 1 and and Generation 2 runflats since 2006 and have never had any issies and always liked them. The Generation 1 ones had a harsher ride though.

F10 owners I know have had no complaints.

+1
Gen 1 were rough riding, Gen 8 are much better. Never had any quality problems with any.

[paulbazo]

Originally Posted by clymer

Hi, I'm thinking about purchasing the 535xi w/ sport/dynamic packages. The car will be made to order. Are the vehicles that are being produced now still having the issues w/ run flats? Also, is the 535xi tires without the M package just as likely to have the bubble issues? Read all the problems that people are having and am having second thoughts about the purchase, especially since my wife will be the primary driver of this car. Any advice or information?? Thanks!

F10 has such a soft and isolated steering and suspension that RFT are not an issue, you can not feel them anymore.

On previous BMW models, in the good old days when you had real steering and suspensions, RFT were very bad because you could feel them, those days are gone, new BMWs are so isolated and soft that it does not matter if you have RFT, non RFT or anything else, hard to feel the difference.

[paulbazo]

Originally Posted by E90Fleet

Dont read about runflats on older models as the runflat tires have changed over the years.
Most BMW's currently have Generation 2 Runflats
The new 1 and 3 Series have been shown with the latest Generation 3 runflats which blind tests have shown are indistinguishable from "normal" tires and should start making their way to other models.

I have had e90's with Generation 1 and and Generation 2 runflats since 2006 and have never had any issies and always liked them. The Generation 1 ones had a harsher ride though.

F10 owners I know have had no complaints.

I don't think Gen 1 or gen 2 run flats make a difference, is new BMWs lexus like suspension and steering that do not allow to feel the tires.

You could ride on your rims and could not tell the difference, that is how bad the new steering and suspensions are, the worst part, people get used to it after a few miles.

[radarguy]

Originally Posted by clymer

Hi, I'm thinking about purchasing the 535xi w/ sport/dynamic packages. The car will be made to order. Are the vehicles that are being produced now still having the issues w/ run flats? Also, is the 535xi tires without the M package just as likely to have the bubble issues? Read all the problems that people are having and am having second thoughts about the purchase, especially since my wife will be the primary driver of this car. Any advice or information?? Thanks!

Any Xi with the sport package (M or not) sold in the U.S. will have Goodyear LS2 19" tires. Although they ride and handle just fine, they appear to be more susceptible to failure than other low profile tires. Most of the respondents above do not have these tires. Read the reports on this forum and on Bimmerfest and you'll understand. Get the tire and wheel insurance and be willing to put up with the inconvenience of replacing tires and possibly waiting weeks to get a replacement.

[JOHNBMWM5]

I have Michelin Primacy 19" run flats on my 550i M Sport, no problems at all.

[wang133ro]

I was prepared to replace the RFTs the car came with (Bridgestone Turanza) - even bought the mobility kit (air compressor and sealant gel) from BMW - but now I'm not so sure.

On some road surfaces they are rather noisy, but on the other hand I haven't heard first hand success stories with the sealant gel so I'm not sure how well it actually works....in other words I'm not sure how big of a risk I'm exposing myself to if I switch to regular tires.

[Needsdecaf]

Originally Posted by radarguy

Any Xi with the sport package (M or not) sold in the U.S. will have Goodyear LS2 19" tires. Although they ride and handle just fine, they appear to be more susceptible to failure than other low profile tires. Most of the respondents above do not have these tires. Read the reports on this forum and on Bimmerfest and you'll understand. Get the tire and wheel insurance and be willing to put up with the inconvenience of replacing tires and possibly waiting weeks to get a replacement.

This.

The ones on the xi (Goodyear LS2's) are the main culprit. The others have had fewer issues

[scottz5]

I now have bubbles in both fronts they suck!

[marriotm]

I have a 535xi and the RF Tires take some getting used to. Harsher ride compared to my neighbors new E350 on regular tires.

[just516in]

just had one rft replaced due to nail! i like the ride of regular air tires better, but the tire/rim warranty already seems like a deal!!! just had the car for less than 3 weeks

[MBrown1003]

Originally Posted by wang133ro

I was prepared to replace the RFTs the car came with (Bridgestone Turanza) - even bought the mobility kit (air compressor and sealant gel) from BMW - but now I'm not so sure.

On some road surfaces they are rather noisy, but on the other hand I haven't heard first hand success stories with the sealant gel so I'm not sure how well it actually works....in other words I'm not sure how big of a risk I'm exposing myself to if I switch to regular tires.

FWIW, I had a piece of glass slice the shoulder of one of the tires on my M3. I used the M Mobility kit to seal and inflate the tire. I probably should have left the compressor on for a bit longer, but it sealed it well enough that I was able to complete the trip to my office with adequate inflation. I then had it taken to the dealer on a flat-bed truck.

[BMWOO7]

04/11 build F10 MSport XDrive with Goodyear LS2's and no issues. Are the majority of issues around hitting potholes etc...?

I've had the Michelin RF's on my '11 X5 for about a year now (almost 8k miles) and no issues. Although I will say there isn't much tread on these tires.