[Sedoy]

Wow, new 2012 Audi A6 3.0 TFSI Quattro surpasses 535i in acceleration and handling. Seems like new A6 is a real deal.

Do you think that heavier (4233 lbs.) 535 xdrive will be able to match Audi A6 performance?

Insideline.com review:

2012 Audi A6:

Brakes front: 14-inch ventilated discs with 2-piston sliding calipers
Brakes 13 in ventilated discs with single-piston sliding calipers
As tested Curb Weight (lb): 4,175

Acceleration
0-30 (sec): 2.0 (2.1 with T/C on)
0-45 (sec): 3.4 (3.6 with T/C on)
0-60 (sec): 5.2 (5.7 with T/C on)
0-60 with 1-ft Rollout (sec): 4.9 (5.4 with T/C on)
0-75 (sec): 7.6 (8.1 with T/C on)
1/4-Mile (sec @ mph): 13.6 @ 102.0 (13.8 @ 100.8 with T/C on)

Braking
30-0 (ft): 28
60-0 (ft): 111

Handling
Slalom (mph): 67.2 (64.5 with T/C on)
Skid Pad Lateral acceleration (g): 0.90 (0.88 with T/C on)

http://blogs.insideline.com/straight...i-quattro.html

2011 BMW 535i:

Horsepower (hp @ rpm): 300 @ 5,800
Torque (lb-ft @ rpm): 300 @ 1,200
Tire type: All-season front and rear

Brakes front: 13.7-inch two-piece solid steel discs with single-piston sliding calipers
Brakes rear: 13.6-inch two-piece ventilated steel discs with single-piston sliding calipers
As tested Curb Weight (lb): 4,080


Acceleration
0-30 mph (sec.): 2.3
0-45 mph (sec.): 3.9
0-60 mph (sec.): 5.9
0-60 with 1 foot of rollout (sec.): 5.6
0-75 mph (sec.): 8.6
1/4-mile (sec. @ mph): 14.3 @ 95.1


Braking
30-0 mph (ft.): 28
60-0 mph (ft.): 110

Handling
Slalom, 6 x 100 ft. (mph): 64.9
Slalom, 6 x 100 ft. (mph) ESC ON: 62.0
Skid pad, 200-ft. diameter (lateral g): 0.84
Skid pad, 200-ft. diameter (lateral g) ESC ON: 0.84

http://www.insideline.com/bmw/5-seri...full-test.html

[mlai]

Not a surprise to me. I test drove the A7 3.0T and found that handling beats the F10 by a mile in curvy roads. Steering feel is terrible, though.

[newowner35i]

the 5er is wearing all seasons, i learned tires make a huge difference, i drove the a7 and felt a lot if understeer ( front heavy )

[mlai]

Originally Posted by newowner35i

the 5er is wearing all seasons, i learned tires make a huge difference, i drove the a7 and felt a lot if understeer ( front heavy )

Mine is on PZero Max performance and the A7 still corners tighter than my car

And it really depends on the version of the A7 that you test drove. I test drove the A7 3.0T which has quattro as standard.......

[delvek]

Guy comes on and for his first post its an Audi review, didn't even read it ... next.

[mlai]

Originally Posted by delvek

Guy comes on and for his first post its an Audi review, didn't even read it ... next.

I read almost all reviews of cars that I may encounter on the road. Never know when you will need to kick their butt. And when you do, helps to know their weaknesses......

[EdM5]

For chrissake, we're talking about a damn Volkswagen, this is Bimmerpost!
@ Sedoy, check this site and please stay there:

http://www.volkswagenforum.com/forum/

[Robin_NL]

Originally Posted by EdwinF10

For chrissake, we're talking about a damn Volkswagen, this is Bimmerpost!
@ Sedoy, check this site and please stay there:

http://www.volkswagenforum.com/forum/

LOL.

My problem is I almost never can tell if it's an A4 or A6 that's disappearing in my rearviewmirror.

[Needsdecaf]

Originally Posted by newowner35i

the 5er is wearing all seasons, i learned tires make a huge difference, i drove the a7 and felt a lot if understeer ( front heavy )

That's a mis-print. THe GY's on that car were GY Excellence Summer tires. The sport package car does not have All Seasons that fit those sizes.

[The Swami]

I'm coming from the world of VW/Audi and this is my 1st BMW! These performance numbers are very misleading and I would double check that post!

Also, don't forget that most VW/Audi dealerships provide absolutely piss poor service, and their manufacturer's warranty is like playing a back-alley shell-game. I even had a dealer purchased Extended Warranty on my previous Audi vehicles and still got the nickel and dime treatment! Don't even get me started on the issues I had with my RS6 and S4's.

Whatever the numbers are, if you don't build a quality product and back it with good service it's still a piece of junk. Hit it Beanie Man.. Simm Simma, you know the rest!

[bobbyd1961]

Originally Posted by Sedoy

Wow, new 2012 Audi A6 3.0 TFSI Quattro (with summer tires) surpasses 535i in acceleration and handling. Seems like new A6 is a real deal.

Do you think that heavier (4233 lbs.) 535 xdrive will be able to match Audi A6 performance?

Insideline.com review:

2012 Audi A6:

Brakes front: 14-inch ventilated discs with 2-piston sliding calipers
Brakes 13 in ventilated discs with single-piston sliding calipers
As tested Curb Weight (lb): 4,175

Acceleration
0-30 (sec): 2.0 (2.1 with T/C on)
0-45 (sec): 3.4 (3.6 with T/C on)
0-60 (sec): 5.2 (5.7 with T/C on)
0-60 with 1-ft Rollout (sec): 4.9 (5.4 with T/C on)
0-75 (sec): 7.6 (8.1 with T/C on)
1/4-Mile (sec @ mph): 13.6 @ 102.0 (13.8 @ 100.8 with T/C on)

Braking
30-0 (ft): 28
60-0 (ft): 111

Handling
Slalom (mph): 67.2 (64.5 with T/C on)
Skid Pad Lateral acceleration (g): 0.90 (0.88 with T/C on)

http://blogs.insideline.com/straight...i-quattro.html

2011 BMW 535i:

Horsepower (hp @ rpm): 300 @ 5,800
Torque (lb-ft @ rpm): 300 @ 1,200
Tire type: All-season front and rear

Brakes front: 13.7-inch two-piece solid steel discs with single-piston sliding calipers
Brakes rear: 13.6-inch two-piece ventilated steel discs with single-piston sliding calipers
As tested Curb Weight (lb): 4,080


Acceleration
0-30 mph (sec.): 2.3
0-45 mph (sec.): 3.9
0-60 mph (sec.): 5.9
0-60 with 1 foot of rollout (sec.): 5.6
0-75 mph (sec.): 8.6
1/4-mile (sec. @ mph): 14.3 @ 95.1


Braking
30-0 mph (ft.): 28
60-0 mph (ft.): 110

Handling
Slalom, 6 x 100 ft. (mph): 64.9
Slalom, 6 x 100 ft. (mph) ESC ON: 62.0
Skid pad, 200-ft. diameter (lateral g): 0.84
Skid pad, 200-ft. diameter (lateral g) ESC ON: 0.84

http://www.insideline.com/bmw/5-seri...full-test.html

nothing compared to my E90 M3.

[Sedoy]

Dude, I'm comparing A6 vs. 5-series, which are probably two best German mid-sized sedans right now. And I’m not sure what’s your problem with Audi, it is comparable to Mercedes and BMW.

Originally Posted by EdwinF10

For chrissake, we're talking about a damn Volkswagen, this is Bimmerpost!
@ Sedoy, check this site and please stay there:

http://www.volkswagenforum.com/forum/

[Sedoy]

True, GY Excellence are summer grand touring tires.

Originally Posted by Needsdecaf

That's a mis-print. THe GY's on that car were GY Excellence Summer tires. The sport package car does not have All Seasons that fit those sizes.

[LACSTER]

[Needsdecaf]

Originally Posted by LACSTER

What's wrong with comparing our car to it's closest competition and discussing the pluses and minuses of each? Nothing in my book...

[delvek]

Originally Posted by LACSTER

+1

Just a typical monthly posting of a wanna be BMW owner.

There is no competition, I drive everyday against Audi's and they all disappear from view, they are 2nd best ...

[EdM5]

Originally Posted by Sedoy

And I’m not sure what’s your problem with Audi, it is comparable to Mercedes and BMW.

No problem whatsover with Volkswagen. Good cars actually.

But don't you think this title:

"2012 Audi A6 3.0 TFSI performance (WOW)"

is a bit silly for a FIRST post on a BMW forum?
dude

[mke1402]

Audi is experts at branding. To me an Audi is a luxury Volkswagen. Or a Volkswagen with a beautiful design. You can buy a Volkswagen, Skoda, Seat or an Audi with the same engine. Only difference is the design, the price and Audi is better insulated.

Every time BMW comes with something new, or a new model - Audi does the same, right after. First the Bimmer 5, then the A6. BMW 535D bi-turbo - and now Audi launches a superdiesel.

Im sick and tired hearing about how great Audi is, and all it is is a Skoda or Seat with a beautiful dress and a lot of commercials in the a...

Audi is a Wannabe Bimmer or Mercedes.

[Sedoy]

This is my first post on this BMW forum, but I'm active member on X5 forum (xoutpost.com) since I own one. I was impressed with performance of 2012 A6 so I decided to compare A6 to 535i since I'm looking to get one of those soon.
Also, why so much unrespect for Audi, why do you care so much that it’s owned by Volkswagen? Bugatti also owned by Volkswagen, so in your eyes it is overpriced VW with 1200 HP right? To me Audi earned a lot of respect lately by making true supercar Audi R8, winning last few years of LeMans race and improving performance to challenge even BMW.

Originally Posted by EdwinF10

No problem whatsover with Volkswagen. Good cars actually.

But don't you think this title:

"2012 Audi A6 3.0 TFSI performance (WOW)"

is a bit silly for a FIRST post on a BMW forum?
dude

[newowner35i]

Originally Posted by mlai

Mine is on PZero Max performance and the A7 still corners tighter than my car

And it really depends on the version of the A7 that you test drove. I test drove the A7 3.0T which has quattro as standard.......

i drove the same one, arent all a7 quattro?

[newowner35i]

as some one pointed out the tires were touring, whick arent the best, i feel the audi may be faster, but the bimmer is more pleasing if u get what im saying, also did the 5er come with active roll control that is the best option on the car

[Sedoy]

Tested 535i had summer grand touring tires and Dynamic Handling Package which includes Active Roll Stabilization [ARS].

Originally Posted by newowner35i

as some one pointed out the tires were touring, whick arent the best, i feel the audi may be faster, but the bimmer is more pleasing if u get what im saying, also did the 5er come with active roll control that is the best option on the car