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      07-28-2012, 11:16 AM   #45
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i am wondering if its a UK thing. My 535 also finished production on 7/4 and I was scheduled for week 27 build. It only takes a few days from start to finish so it sounds about right. I specifically told my SA that i wanted my F10 to be a July build and he even said that for any 2013 orders production doesn't start until week 27/July. Anything prior were 2012's.

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I too was told that the UK MY2013 builds started Week 27 (July 2nd). Does anyone know what code their Sat Nav is? The new builds should be ZMB, ZMP or ZMQ and I sort of assumed the new software would come with the new hardware - but I guess that's a stupid assumption when it comes to BMW

My (now on holiday) dealer assured me my July 30th (now sometime in August) delivery will have the 'latest' software - but of course that could be the 2012 software if the 2013 version is still not released
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i am wondering if its a UK thing. My 535 also finished production on 7/4 and I was scheduled for week 27 build. It only takes a few days from start to finish so it sounds about right. I specifically told my SA that i wanted my F10 to be a July build and he even said that for any 2013 orders production doesn't start until week 27/July. Anything prior were 2012's.

I am just thinking since cars in europe get different options/packages that this could be the reason. Do different models get different options/packages in europe? We will all know very soon since there are a bunch of F10's at the US ports now waiting to be released.

I would be furious if bmw really does screw a few hundred 2013 F10's owner just by a few days or weeks. It would not make any sense for them to roll something out like this.

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My F10 should have been built last week. I wouldn't say I'll be furious if they try to screw me over - more sickened about the shit storm that will follow when I reject the car.
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      07-28-2012, 11:53 AM   #47
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I too was told that the UK MY2013 builds started Week 27 (July 2nd). Does anyone know what code their Sat Nav is? The new builds should be ZMB, ZMP or ZMQ and I sort of assumed the new software would come with the new hardware - but I guess that's a stupid assumption when it comes to BMW

My (now on holiday) dealer assured me my July 30th (now sometime in August) delivery will have the 'latest' software - but of course that could be the 2012 software if the 2013 version is still not released
I've emailed my CA to check what is being built into my car. I don't what BMW are playing at with this change but they could hardly have made the thing more opaque. They haven't updated their web site to reflect this and in what appears to be an underhand attempt to stop people holding back orders, they haven't even changed the code from 609. I'm disgusted by all of this - it doesn't demonstrate much joy for their customers. More like utter disdain.
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      07-28-2012, 11:54 AM   #48
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My F10 should have been built last week. I wouldn't say I'll be furious if they try to screw me over - more sickened about the shit storm that will follow when I reject the car.
Hope you don't need to resort to such extreme measure.
I ordered mine for mid-September delivery but I think I'll ask my dealer to postpone for two weeks if possible.
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      07-29-2012, 02:40 AM   #49
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My F10 should have been built last week. I wouldn't say I'll be furious if they try to screw me over - more sickened about the shit storm that will follow when I reject the car.
Lol, love your style arnsbrae.

Stick it to 'em!
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I ordered my car (company lease) in June. I was told that week 27 builds onwards would get the new navigation. Only when the car was on the boat did BMW "fess-up" and state that the new nav had been bumped to week 36+ cars.

I don't want the old tech so I cancelled the car. Order will be re-placed when I know the vehicles are shipping with the shiny new stuff!
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I too was told that the UK MY2013 builds started Week 27 (July 2nd). Does anyone know what code their Sat Nav is? The new builds should be ZMB, ZMP or ZMQ and I sort of assumed the new software would come with the new hardware - but I guess that's a stupid assumption when it comes to BMW

My (now on holiday) dealer assured me my July 30th (now sometime in August) delivery will have the 'latest' software - but of course that could be the 2012 software if the 2013 version is still not released
I ordered my car (company lease) in June. I was told that week 27 builds onwards would get the new navigation. Only when the car was on the boat did BMW "fess-up" and state that the new nav had been bumped to week 36+ cars.

I don't want the old tech so I cancelled the car. Order will be re-placed when I know the vehicles are shipping with the shiny new stuff!
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Who told you week 36+? Is this confirmed?

That puts the change for Sept builds which is also when the Euro cars get the new digital 6WB dash cluster that the US cars won't get until next year.

Damn BMW couldn't make this shiet more complicated for us.

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Obsessed? Me?

I just had a look at the press release that covers this. Interestingly, it is dated 10th July. The release only gives dates for new features that will be introduced at a later date, such as the touchpad and LTE hotspot. To me, that would suggest the new 609 is from 10th July but then what do I know?

https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/press...tem=node__2369
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Who told you week 36+? Is this confirmed?

That puts the change for Sept builds which is also when the Euro cars get the new digital 6WB dash cluster that the US cars won't get until next year.

Damn BMW couldn't make this shiet more complicated for us.

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I didn't post that but I've just had a reply to my email from my CA...

"The new Multi Media Package is not in effect on 5 series until week 36 which is September build."

I will be contacting my lease company on Monday to explore how I can cancel my order. This is classic bait and switch as BMW issued a global press release advising all 5 series would have the new system from July build. I ordered a 5 series because of that but now my order is placed they have changed it. What's worse is that they obviously weren't going to say anything unless I'd asked!

The trickery with the configurator is pretty sneaky too. At first sight it looks like the 609 section is unchanged. Look more closely however, and it turns out they've removed the description 12GB and just left it as integrated HDD. No size given so it's nice and ambiguous. Way to screw over your customers.

I feel gutted. What was looking to be a pleasant event (delivery of the new car with the new system) is instead leaving me feeling angry and cheated. I don't use the word cheated lightly.
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My car is scheduled to be delivered at the BMW Welt on Sept 15, which is end of week 37. Does anyone know when would be the expected production week?
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I am scheduled for ED for Aug 31st. Its going to be bad if it's not there. I have purchased air tickets and made hotel reservations so I can't even cancel. Do I have a chance or choice.
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wow... week 36+.... I feel so......... ARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH
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wow... week 36+.... I feel so......... ARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH
I think you'll find that BMW will not actually shaft the US customers - just the schmucks in the UK...
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I think you'll find that BMW will not actually shaft the US customers - just the schmucks in the UK...
IF YOU ARE GIVING ME FALSE HOPE, I WILL FIND YOU AND I KILL YOU!!!!!!!!!!!! well not really but....... ahhhhh it would be really disappointing if it has the current nav system.
plus the cargo boat with my car is just about to dock at panama.....
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IF YOU ARE GIVING ME FALSE HOPE, I WILL FIND YOU AND I KILL YOU!!!!!!!!!!!! well not really but....... ahhhhh it would be really disappointing if it has the current nav system.
plus the cargo boat with my car is just about to dock at panama.....
Seriously - do you think they would get away with that bullcrap in the USA? You"ll be fine. (Peeks past curtains to check for strange cars in the street...)

Perhaps Jason could shed some light on this...?
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They do get away with these stuff... Plus I dont want to wait another 8+ weeks haha well.... Time will tell, and pretty soon as a matter of fact, as the east coasters get to have their 5ers before we do.
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My car is scheduled to be delivered at the BMW Welt on Sept 15, which is end of week 37. Does anyone know when would be the expected production week?
I think it will go into production on September 3rd. That's what my CA told me, 2 weeks prior to actual delivery date.
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I think it will go into production on September 3rd. That's what my CA told me, 2 weeks prior to actual delivery date.
Damn, that's spot on week 36! LOL
Thanks for the info!
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I am still hopeful. Mine goes into production in week 34.
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I didn't post that but I've just had a reply to my email from my CA...

"The new Multi Media Package is not in effect on 5 series until week 36
Bloody hell, what a mess. I placed my order in early July so no idea which nav version I'll get.

Arnsbrae, have you had anything confirmed to you from the dealer as yet?

I'd rather cancel my order and wait a few more weeks if I know a definite date when the next gen nav will be shipped.

Really glad I started this thread now. Or am I? Maybe ignorance is bliss...
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aaarrghh, Im so pissed now. I'm collecting my car 2mrw and based on what I've read I think its definitely gona have the old system..
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