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      03-30-2018, 11:46 AM   #1
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n63tu turbos vs alpina turbos on n63

Which turbo's perform better? seems like the n63tu turbos flow well enough for 600whp.
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      03-30-2018, 12:18 PM   #2
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N63TU differences
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Engine mechanical
• New cylinder head due to use of the Turbo Valvetronic Direct Injection (TVDI) procedure
• 3rd generation Valvetronic
• New valvetrain with modified timing
• Adoption of VANOS from the N55 engine
• New cylinder head cover with adapted crankcase ventilation
• Pistons with modified piston crown geometry
• New connecting rod with even pitch and adaptation of the crankcase due to modified connecting rod shape
• Adapted crankshaft
• Chain drive with modified guide rails and an extruded chain with 142 elements.

Oil supply
• Pendulum slide cell pump with small overall width
• Eight individual oil spray nozzles for piston crown cooling.

Cooling
• Integration of the two engine control units in the low-temperature circuit and cooling over the back panel with cooling pipe
• Expansion tank under the left side wall with separate filling hopper.

Intake and exhaust emission systems
• Adaptation of the manifold for the air intake duct due to new geometry of the cylinder head cover
• Use of the hot film air mass meter 7
• Adoption of the charge air temperature and intake-manifold pressure sensor from the N20 engine
• Exhaust turbocharger with new compressor and modified wastegate valves
• Discontinuation of the blow-off valves.

Vacuum system
• Two-stage vacuum pump with new arrangement of the bolt connection
• Vacuum reservoir for the wastegate valves in the V-area of the engine.

Fuel preparation
• Use of the known high-pressure injection with injectors and high pressure pump HDP5
• Discontinuation of fuel low-pressure sensor

Engine management system
• New dual control unit concept with one control unit per bank
• Oil level sensor with an additional temperature sensor in the main oil duct behind the starter motor.
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Which turbo's perform better? seems like the n63tu turbos flow well enough for 600whp.
Turbos aren't the same.

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      03-30-2018, 06:03 PM   #4
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compare part numbers and schematics on realoem.com
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Not having diverted valves makes n63tu not applicable for N63. However, the Alpina Turbos all have diverted/blowoff valves. The older Alpina Turbos based on the n63 platform should be a direct swap.
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compare part numbers and schematics on realoem.com
Are the turbos the same?
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      04-04-2018, 07:26 AM   #7
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Are the turbos the same?
Alpina turbos are not the same they are way better
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Alpina turbos are not the same they are way better
from where and what model year etc?
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Alpina turbos are not the same they are way better
That's what I was thinking too
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I just figured since bms dynoed 600whp with the n63tu turbo's and the highest dyno ive seen from the alpina's was around 570whp. I do realize the n63tu has alot of other upgrades over the n63 that also contributed to the 600whp dyno.
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      04-05-2018, 11:56 PM   #11
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N63 is tuning limited
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