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      06-23-2015, 06:37 AM   #1
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10.5 front wheels on m5 fenders correct offsets

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i was running with m tech fenders on avandgarde 21x9 et35 m510 with 255/30/21 tire setup on front,
i buyed aftermarket m5 bumpers with fenders to make conversion and now wheels are 2.5 cm inside fender. i want to buy one pair rear wheels and run 21x10.5 et38 all arround. i don't want to use spacer for front tires because rears are nicer and concave.
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      06-23-2015, 07:08 AM   #2
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before with hamman lip


after with cf rkp lip


here is how 10.5 front looks like with non m5 fender (m5 fenderes are 1.6 mm wider)

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      06-23-2015, 07:19 AM   #3
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I think oem m5 fenders should be much wider than 1.6mm each side...
i run 10.5 et20 with oem m-package

I dont know if You swapped front axle component from m5... if not, with oem m5 fenders et0 should be okay!
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I think oem m5 fenders should be much wider than 1.6mm each side...
i run 10.5 et20 with oem m-package

I dont know if You swapped front axle component from m5... if not, with oem m5 fenders et0 should be okay!
i am running with std front axle so 18mm spacers witll be ok with 10.5'' wide et38 wheels. which means it will stick out 35 mm farther and will be 5mm closer to suspention. are you running with adj camber? do you have more photos. what is your tire size?
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      06-23-2015, 11:04 PM   #5
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So your rears are 10.5 already. Are you gonna order the same one's and try to see if it fits? Any issues doing this? Love what ur doing with the conversion! I'm ordering the same 21" wheels but like yours, the front is flat and not concave. U think running the rears in the front will cause any type of issues?
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      06-24-2015, 01:55 AM   #6
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i am running with std front axle so 18mm spacers witll be ok with 10.5'' wide et38 wheels. which means it will stick out 35 mm farther and will be 5mm closer to suspention. are you running with adj camber? do you have more photos. what is your tire size?
i would go with 10.5 et0 on front
i'm running stock control arms, camber is adjusting by itself, which is pretty awesome
255/30 on front, 265/30 rears
here You can check out my car:
http://*******************/blog/2015...zs-f11-touring
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      06-24-2015, 05:40 AM   #7
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So your rears are 10.5 already. Are you gonna order the same one's and try to see if it fits? Any issues doing this? Love what ur doing with the conversion! I'm ordering the same 21" wheels but like yours, the front is flat and not concave. U think running the rears in the front will cause any type of issues?
i think that concave wheels all arround will look better.
this is rear wheel on front with 16mm spacer total of 10.5'' et22



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      06-24-2015, 07:18 AM   #8
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i think that concave wheels all arround will look better.
this is rear wheel on front with 16mm spacer total of 10.5'' et22


ismet... So these pictures r the rears in the front now? Is it clearing all suspension parts? So the other picture with the normal fender is that the same offset as the rear tire or ur not sure? Like u I'm trying to accomplish the same concave look but keeping my standard fenders and not the M5. I'm trying to do some research if running this will cause any handling issues or safety or if it puts any improper wear on the front tires?
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      06-24-2015, 08:08 AM   #9
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i would go with 10.5 et0 on front
i'm running stock control arms, camber is adjusting by itself, which is pretty awesome
255/30 on front, 265/30 rears
here You can check out my car:
http://*******************/blog/2015...zs-f11-touring
polonez! I remember your thread Haha! Ur car is my screen saver and I was going back trying to find that thread with no luck until u posted here. I went back and read your post. So just like ismet here he's trying to accomplish the samething u did. So help us here! Rears are fine I can still run 21×10.5 with 295 25/21's. But for the fronts same 21×10.5 but request et25 correct and run 255 30/21's? Or I think u mentioned even et20? I'm about to order my wheels next month and I really don't want that flat look in the front!
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ismet... So these pictures r the rears in the front now? Is it clearing all suspension parts? So the other picture with the normal fender is that the same offset as the rear tire or ur not sure? Like u I'm trying to accomplish the same concave look but keeping my standard fenders and not the M5. I'm trying to do some research if running this will cause any handling issues or safety or if it puts any improper wear on the front tires?
its is the rear wheel. with 16mm spacer. it clears all suspention parts.
polonez is running with std fenders same setup
front is 9x21 et35
rear is 10.5x21 et38
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      06-24-2015, 09:23 AM   #11
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its is the rear wheel. with 16mm spacer. it clears all suspention parts.
polonez is running with std fenders same setup
front is 9x21 et35
rear is 10.5x21 et38
ismet... when u order the new front wheels what are u gonna request for? Same as the rear or will advant garde give you a custom offset for the front? Before I place my order I'm trying to get the right Setup So I wasn't sure if I should just tell them to give me the same setup for the rears for the fronts as well and run the 16mm spacer? Or if they can give me the right offset without running the spacer?

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ismet... when u order the new front wheels what are u gonna request for? Same as the rear or will advant garde give you a custom offset for the front? Before I place my order I'm trying to get the right Setup So I wasn't sure if I should just tell them to give me the same setup for the rears for the fronts as well and run the 16mm spacer? Or if they can give me the right offset without running the spacer?
ask for 20et ofset. but for the 21x10.5 they only have 38 mm offset with 5x120 bolt pattern. so you ll order 4 same wheels for rear and buy 16mm spacer for front. 295 25 21 for rear tires and for the front 255-275/30 21.
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ask for 20et ofset. but for the 21x10.5 they only have 38 mm offset with 5x120 bolt pattern. so you ll order 4 same wheels for rear and buy 16mm spacer for front. 295 25 21 for rear tires and for the front 255-275/30 21.
Thanks! I read all offsets are already set to make and model. So I guess the only way to achieve this is like what u said...order all 4 the same and add spaces. Did u have to extend the lugs? Last question is 255 on a 10.5" is gonna have a stretched look?
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      06-24-2015, 01:28 PM   #14
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i would go with 10.5 et0 on front
i'm running stock control arms, camber is adjusting by itself, which is pretty awesome
255/30 on front, 265/30 rears
here You can check out my car:
http://*******************/blog/2015...zs-f11-touring
Hey Polonez 255 on the front r u getting a stretched look on your tires?
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as on the picture:


Ismet - i think you should have said, that you're installing aftermarket parts, which are not as wide as oem m5 fenders... that would make our advices easier
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      06-24-2015, 04:34 PM   #16
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Awesome! OK So just to clarify rears are as is but what should I be asking for the fronts just to settle this confusion LOL! I mean it's going to be 10.5 but et and I'm assuming a front spacer?
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      06-27-2015, 04:18 PM   #17
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hi guys
i was running with m tech fenders on avandgarde 21x9 et35 m510 with 255/30/21 tire setup on front,
i buyed aftermarket m5 bumpers with fenders to make conversion and now wheels are 2.5 cm inside fender. i want to buy one pair rear wheels and run 21x10.5 et38 all arround. i don't want to use spacer for front tires because rears are nicer and concave.
thanks.
Ismet... Amy updates?
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      06-28-2015, 12:12 AM   #18
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OEM M5 Fenders and Front Bumper are 2 inches wider than any other F10. Hope this helps.
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      06-29-2015, 12:46 AM   #19
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Ismet... Amy updates?
i ordered them, hopefully will have in 3 days. will install them with my old 255 30 21 tires. will post photos as soon as i have them on.
i am planning to have kw2 coilovers too.

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2 inc wider? 1 inc each side right?
here is what i found says 31 mm in total

From the BMW UK website:

M5 Width - 1891mm, Track front - 1627mm, Track rear - 1582mm

F10 Width - 1860mm, Track front - 1600mm, Track rear - 1627mm
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      06-29-2015, 12:50 AM   #20
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Sweet! Let us know!
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      07-01-2015, 02:19 AM   #21
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i added 16mm spacer and now how it looks with m5 fenders . still waiting for kw2 coilovers and 10.5 wide front wheels.
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      07-01-2015, 03:19 AM   #22
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Looks really good ismet! I was gonna go for it but not sure of running a 255 on a 10.5 is gonna look? Maybe too much stretch post some pix when u get them!
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