Had a DME failure

mike@x-ph.com · 05-01-2015, 05:27 PM

Thats insane... Im sure you will get your money back.
Cant think of any reason why the downpipes will damage the DME.

combatbmw · 05-01-2015, 06:26 PM

BMW should handle this for you I think for sure.

Mike said it the best, how does dps/exhaust put water in a air tight sealed unit.
What a big joke.

Those stupid asses, being a dealer vendor and a former dealer GM I can tell you.

Service Managers, advisors and techs HATE WARRANTY WORK.
It doesn't pay what "Customer pay" does.

So they figure they void your warranty so you can fix it out of pocket and they make triple the labor rate and parts.

Scum

f10mods · 05-03-2015, 04:42 PM

Did you have leaves in your cowl? Big rainy season or lots or carwash trips?
Maybe water got into the DME and corroded it? Also is the dme covered under the 8 year emission? Above topics were issues with the early pre-95 3 series. Beefier drains were added. DME covered incorrectly installed or bad gasket?

r33_RGSport · 05-03-2015, 05:02 PM

@badblack550xi , I hope you got it resolved. That dealership shouldn't ask you to pay for the damage which was caused by water, not the downpipe.

CloudVIII · 05-03-2015, 07:13 PM

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hahah my report says the following:

Could some moisture come in from where the BMS stage 2 wires come into the DME box? Just general high levels of humidity from your hot engine and cold air intake could cause corrosion. I don't think it's the down pipes at all, but the box may not be as sealed as required because of the stage 2. Just maybe something all of us should consider if running the BMS stage 2.

badblack550xi · 05-03-2015, 07:44 PM

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Could some moisture come in from where the BMS stage 2 wires come into the DME box? Just general high levels of humidity from your hot engine and cold air intake could cause corrosion. I don't think it's the down pipes at all, but the box may not be as sealed as required because of the stage 2. Just maybe something all of us should consider if running the BMS stage 2.

had it in for a long time but maybe something happened cold air intake was in for not more than 24 hours it failed when i was stock.

badblack550xi · 05-03-2015, 08:37 PM

Inspected the old DME I dint see any corrosion at all its clean as new.

badblack550xi · 05-03-2015, 08:45 PM

Inspected the old DME I dint see any corrosion at all its clean as new.

FSociety · 05-03-2015, 08:53 PM

Hope BMW NA reimburses

Bmw doubles · 03-21-2019, 02:15 AM

I know this is an old one badblack550xi was your dme ever cracked open? I recently had a dme failure from potentially being unsealed and the resistors shorted. Wondering if yours shorted out from moisture?

badblack550xi · 03-24-2019, 11:24 PM

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I know this is an old one badblack550xi was your dme ever cracked open? I recently had a dme failure from potentially being unsealed and the resistors shorted. Wondering if yours shorted out from moisture?

it was never cracked open, im sure BMW wanted to own my ass for 2k, ive seen hundreds of DMEs from my car and none have ever failed from moisture. If it was open most likely a short.

Bmw doubles · 03-25-2019, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Bmw doubles

I know this is an old one badblack550xi was your dme ever cracked open? I recently had a dme failure from potentially being unsealed and the resistors shorted. Wondering if yours shorted out from moisture?

it was never cracked open, im sure BMW wanted to own my ass for 2k, ive seen hundreds of DMEs from my car and none have ever failed from moisture. If it was open most likely a short.

Mine was shorted. New/used inbound

AWF87M2 · 03-25-2019, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bmw doubles

I know this is an old one badblack550xi was your dme ever cracked open? I recently had a dme failure from potentially being unsealed and the resistors shorted. Wondering if yours shorted out from moisture?

Did alex from mission performance seal up your dme with silicone?

Bmw doubles · 03-26-2019, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Bmw doubles

I know this is an old one badblack550xi was your dme ever cracked open? I recently had a dme failure from potentially being unsealed and the resistors shorted. Wondering if yours shorted out from moisture?

Did alex from mission performance seal up your dme with silicone?

He did

AZ-MCRacer · 03-26-2019, 02:49 PM

The ticket says Corrosion found at terminals and internal DME. This means it got wet. Did you leave off any of the lower covers or wash your engine bay that caused it to get wet?

Bmw doubles · 03-26-2019, 06:43 PM

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The ticket says Corrosion found at terminals and internal DME. This means it got wet. Did you leave off any of the lower covers or wash your engine bay that caused it to get wet?

Never left the cover off or washed the engine bay. I'll see if I can get a close pic on the resistors

doodlebro · 03-26-2019, 06:57 PM

This thread is my worst nightmare. I would get them to justify how aftermarket parts made water get into the DME. It does not compute.

Bmw doubles · 03-26-2019, 07:22 PM

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This thread is my worst nightmare. I would get them to justify how aftermarket parts made water get into the DME. It does not compute.

Dme failure is bad but I think the worst nightmare would be a piston shooting out of the block from adding just 1 more PSI.

badblack550xi · 03-26-2019, 08:32 PM

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Never left the cover off or washed the engine bay. I'll see if I can get a close pic on the resistors

The ECU is water cooled, possible some water was trapped inside the cooling system and got the ECU wet ?

Bmw doubles · 03-26-2019, 09:26 PM

I'll know soon. New/used for 300 bucks coming soon. Hard to find to find model production dme that for my year. Or drop 1500 dealer cost for a new one.

Bmw doubles · 03-28-2019, 11:05 PM

So mine turned out to be fine. New dme presented the same problem. The issues was 2 pins pushed out.

badblack550xi · 03-31-2019, 11:02 AM

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So mine turned out to be fine. New dme presented the same problem. The issues was 2 pins pushed out.

ah great you found it, i assumed you checked the pins. I always checked my pins if i got some dme errors.

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