[Cairo Kid]

I have been searching the net for info/videos on the Hartge 90 mm quad tip exhaust for F10 550i (replacement of rear silencers and tips only).

Does anyone have experience with Hartge exhausts, specifically, do you know how it sounds? I love the sound of the meisterschaft, but it isn't available locally here and i'd have to have it shipped in.

I understand Hartge is a good company, but the sound is also important to me.

Any thoughts are appreciated.

[Boss330]

What about AC Schnitzer exhaust?

[Cairo Kid]

Originally Posted by Boss330

What about AC Schnitzer exhaust?

That sounds pretty good! Do you know what the difference between homologated and w/o homologation is? I have access to a system here w/o homologation and don't know if this is something i should be concerned about.

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by Cairo Kid

That sounds pretty good! Do you know what the difference between homologated and w/o homologation is? I have access to a system here w/o homologation and don't know if this is something i should be concerned about.

Homologated means it has TÜV papers and that it meets European noise regulations. Non homologated are for "export" and does not meet EU noise regs. Same quality etc, just louder...

BTW AC Schnitzer exhausts are made by Remus which means good quality

Fitting instructions can be seen here (scroll down in the PDF file for English version):

http://preisliste.ac-schnitzer.de/ac...1812210515.pdf

As you can see, the tips are slip on so if you don't like the AC Schnitzer tips you can use round 90mm/102mm or similar instead

If you are looking for other ACS parts, TÜV documents, fitting instructions etc, here is a good place to see: http://preisliste.ac-schnitzer.de/acs_kpl/

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[Cairo Kid]

Originally Posted by Boss330

Homologated means it has TÜV papers and that it meets European noise regulations. Non homologated are for "export" and does not meet EU noise regs. Same quality etc, just louder...

BTW AC Schnitzer exhausts are made by Remus which means good quality

Fitting instructions can be seen here (scroll down in the PDF file for English version):

http://preisliste.ac-schnitzer.de/ac...1812210515.pdf

As you can see, the tips are slip on so if you don't like the AC Schnitzer tips you can use round 90mm/102mm or similar instead

If you are looking for other ACS parts, TÜV documents, fitting instructions etc, here is a good place to see: http://preisliste.ac-schnitzer.de/acs_kpl/

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Thanks again. I would definitely change out the tips. Now, if I could just find a sound clip of the Hartge I can make a final decision (the Hartge silencer/tips are a little cheaper).

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by Cairo Kid

Thanks again. I would definitely change out the tips. Now, if I could just find a sound clip of the Hartge I can make a final decision (the Hartge silencer/tips are a little cheaper).

According to the Hartge website, they don't offer a exhaust system for the 550i. Maybe that's why there are no sound clips of a 550i with Hartge exhaust...

A few more AC Schnitzer clips:

[Cairo Kid]

Thank you for that observation and the additional sound clips. I'm leaning more towards the Schnitzer now, particularly since the tips can be changed. However, just to "tick the box" i'll take it up with the garage that offered the Hartge as well.

[Cairo Kid]

The Hartge system I've been offered is the one for the M5.

Here's a video, I'm guessing the tone of the system on a 550 will be "similar".

[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_oeSGzczgg"]

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by Cairo Kid

The Hartge system I've been offered is the one for the M5.

Here's a video, I'm guessing the tone of the system on a 550 will be "similar".

[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_oeSGzczgg"]

It will not sound exactly like the M5, since the M5 has the cross bank exhaust manifold. That's why you don't have that V8 burble from the M5, but do on the 550i.

There are some that has put on a stock M5 exhaust on their 550i. That also sounds really good, and could possibly tell you how similar, or different, the Hartge M5 exhaust would sound on a 550i.

Remember that the M5 has different diameter exhaust pipes than the 550i, so the Hartge exhaust needs to be modified to fit on the 550i.

Here is two install threads of M5 exhaust on 550i, with sound clips:

http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=795339

http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=752054


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[Cairo Kid]

Originally Posted by Boss330

Homologated means it has TÜV papers and that it meets European noise regulations. Non homologated are for "export" and does not meet EU noise regs. Same quality etc, just louder...

BTW AC Schnitzer exhausts are made by Remus which means good quality

Fitting instructions can be seen here (scroll down in the PDF file for English version):

http://preisliste.ac-schnitzer.de/ac...1812210515.pdf

As you can see, the tips are slip on so if you don't like the AC Schnitzer tips you can use round 90mm/102mm or similar instead

If you are looking for other ACS parts, TÜV documents, fitting instructions etc, here is a good place to see: http://preisliste.ac-schnitzer.de/acs_kpl/

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Do you know what size the exit pipes are on the Schnitzer exhaust? The Remus tips do look quite nice, but i've only seen them available in 60 mm inlet diameter.

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by Cairo Kid

Do you know what size the exit pipes are on the Schnitzer exhaust? The Remus tips do look quite nice, but i've only seen them available in 60 mm inlet diameter.

Unfortunately I don't, but since AC Schnitzer exhausts are made by remus I would think that they use the same diameter. You could possibly contact AC Schnitzer or Remus?

[Cairo Kid]

Originally Posted by Boss330

Unfortunately I don't. You could possibly contact AC Schnitzer or Remus?

OK. Thanks, will do.

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by Cairo Kid

OK. Thanks, will do.

See my edited post above.

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by Cairo Kid

Do you know what size the exit pipes are on the Schnitzer exhaust? The Remus tips do look quite nice, but i've only seen them available in 60 mm inlet diameter.

This is the new design AC Schnitzer tailpipes

[Cairo Kid]

Excellent! This will definitely be my option.

[Cairo Kid]

Originally Posted by Boss330

This is the new design AC Schnitzer tailpipes

And this is what they look like installed on my car

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by Cairo Kid

And this is what they look like installed on my car

Congratulations on the ACS exhaust

Looks great! How's the sound?

And really nice colour on your 550!!!

[Cairo Kid]

Originally Posted by Boss330

Congratulations on the ACS exhaust

Looks great! How's the sound?

And really nice colour on your 550!!!

Thank you! It sounds great, and the service rep says the sound should improve as I put more miles on it.