Do you have aftermarket Down Pipes and had the N63 CCP done?

Atlantis M3tallic · 04-19-2015, 09:05 PM

So I went in to the dealer to have the car inspected for the N63 CCP.

They said they ordered the parts that are needed but didn't really tell me which items were ordered. I will be contacted once the parts are in to bring the car back.

I have Active Autowerke down pipes.
They said in order to change the vacuum pump they will have to remove my down pipes and will charge me for $900+ for it!

Supposedly the shape of the aftermarket down pipes doesn't allow easy access to the vacuum pump. I don't know if this is BS but there's no way in hell I'm paying $900+ to remove and install my down pipes.

I have 2 options.

1. I tell them to skip the vacuum pump.

2. Raise hell with the right contact and have them complete it.

Anyone had the CCP done with aftermarket down pipes?

Any suggestions on what I could do?
Would contacting BMW NA help?

Thanks! :thumbup:

badblack550xi · 04-25-2015, 10:01 PM

sounds like BS i will speak to my service adviser on Monday.

Atlantis M3tallic · 04-25-2015, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by badblack550xi

sounds like BS i will speak to my service adviser on Monday.

Thanks badblack!

Did they change your vacuum pump when you had the CCP done?

badblack550xi · 04-26-2015, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by HR F10

Thanks badblack!

Did they change your vacuum pump when you had the CCP done?

yes actually twice because the new one failed

///M5Driver · 04-27-2015, 08:56 AM

I sorta of say BS just because I've got my car apart right now. The factory passenger downpipe doesn't go behind the pump at all. I would think aftermarket pipes would actually give you more room.

Here's a shot of the VP minus the factory downpipe (my cars current state). You can see the firewall to pump clearance and nothing routes behind it.

Atlantis M3tallic · 04-27-2015, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by e46beater

I sorta of say BS just because I've got my car apart right now. The factory passenger downpipe doesn't go behind the pump at all. I would think aftermarket pipes would actually give you more room.

Here's a shot of the VP minus the factory downpipe (my cars current state). You can see the firewall to pump clearance and nothing routes behind it.

It seems like BS, thanks for the pic!

///M5Driver · 04-27-2015, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by HR F10

It seems like BS, thanks for the pic!

No problem! Good luck

Atlantis M3tallic · 04-27-2015, 07:06 PM

This is my first Bimmer and I'm not sure how to call their BS.

Anyone above a Service Advisor that I can speak to about this?

Would it be worth calling BMW NA about it?

///M5Driver · 04-29-2015, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by HR F10

This is my first Bimmer and I'm not sure how to call their BS.

Anyone above a Service Advisor that I can speak to about this?

Would it be worth calling BMW NA about it?

Show them my pic lol. You can certainly speak to the service manager.

badblack550xi · 04-29-2015, 04:35 PM

My SA said some older models need down pipe removal but thats a part of the program

combatbmw · 04-29-2015, 04:35 PM

what happened with your vacuum pump?
How did u even know it went out code ?

///M5Driver · 04-29-2015, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by combatbmw

what happened with your vacuum pump?
How did u even know it went out code ?

The vac pump replacement is part of the N63 Care Package

combatbmw · 04-29-2015, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by e46beater

The vac pump replacement is part of the N63 Care Package

OIC, I was just curious why it ever was, what happens when it goes out?

badblack550xi · 04-29-2015, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by combatbmw

OIC, I was just curious why it ever was, what happens when it goes out?

car makes no power my brand new one went out same day it was replaced.

///M5Driver · 04-29-2015, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by combatbmw

OIC, I was just curious why it ever was, what happens when it goes out?

I think badblack said his made a crazy noise. It's an assist pump I believe for the turbo's wastegate actuators. So I'm guessing range-efficiency codes will be thrown if it fails.

///M5Driver · 04-29-2015, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by badblack550xi

car makes no power my brand new one went out same day it was replaced.

Lol ya. that

Atlantis M3tallic · 05-01-2015, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by e46beater

Show them my pic lol. You can certainly speak to the service manager.

I would but I'm sure I would hear some BS from it because it's not "my car". Lol

I'll talk to a service manager and see if that helps.

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Originally Posted by badblack550xi

My SA said some older models need down pipe removal but thats a part of the program

Damn, I wish I could get that in writing some how.

If anything since they are catless downpipes (active autowerke) I would think they are smaller than the OEM ones.

The parts came in today. I'm going to talk to the service manager on Monday and see what he can do.

At the end of the day, if it wasn't for BMW having faulty parts, my down pipes wouldn't have to come off at all. It's their problem, I shouldn't have to pay for the inconvenience.

I appreciate the help, I'll keep you posted.

berkel · 05-01-2015, 07:18 PM

Good luck, my car goes in for CCP next week... Agree that you should definitely not be paying $900 to the dealer to re-install your dps...

I hope my car "feels" better after this, I haven't made it to a dyno or 1/4 mile, so don't have any hard perf #s. Sometimes the car feels fast, but there are many times when I feel like I'm missing something.

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Atlantis M3tallic Private 57 Rep 96 Posts Drives: 2017 M3 ZCP Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Orlando, FL iTrader: (0)	Do you have aftermarket Down Pipes and had the N63 CCP done? So I went in to the dealer to have the car inspected for the N63 CCP. They said they ordered the parts that are needed but didn't really tell me which items were ordered. I will be contacted once the parts are in to bring the car back. I have Active Autowerke down pipes. They said in order to change the vacuum pump they will have to remove my down pipes and will charge me for $900+ for it! Supposedly the shape of the aftermarket down pipes doesn't allow easy access to the vacuum pump. I don't know if this is BS but there's no way in hell I'm paying $900+ to remove and install my down pipes. I have 2 options. 1. I tell them to skip the vacuum pump. 2. Raise hell with the right contact and have them complete it. Anyone had the CCP done with aftermarket down pipes? Any suggestions on what I could do? Would contacting BMW NA help? Thanks! :thumbup:
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badblack550xi Colonel 465 Rep 2,416 Posts Drives: F10 550i 2011 F90 2020 COMP Join Date: May 2013 Location: NJ iTrader: (0)	sounds like BS i will speak to my service adviser on Monday. __________________ 2011 550i RWD 60-130 7.35
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///M5Driver First Lieutenant 30 Rep 307 Posts Drives: gaggle of BMW's Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Leawood, KS iTrader: (1)	I sorta of say BS just because I've got my car apart right now. The factory passenger downpipe doesn't go behind the pump at all. I would think aftermarket pipes would actually give you more room. Here's a shot of the VP minus the factory downpipe (my cars current state). You can see the firewall to pump clearance and nothing routes behind it.
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Atlantis M3tallic Private 57 Rep 96 Posts Drives: 2017 M3 ZCP Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Orlando, FL iTrader: (0)	This is my first Bimmer and I'm not sure how to call their BS. Anyone above a Service Advisor that I can speak to about this? Would it be worth calling BMW NA about it?
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berkel Private 26 Rep 63 Posts Drives: 2013 550ix Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: United States iTrader: (0)	Good luck, my car goes in for CCP next week... Agree that you should definitely not be paying $900 to the dealer to re-install your dps... I hope my car "feels" better after this, I haven't made it to a dyno or 1/4 mile, so don't have any hard perf #s. Sometimes the car feels fast, but there are many times when I feel like I'm missing something.
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