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      07-03-2016, 03:46 AM   #1
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I just wanna clarify that is Avg ign range of 0.2-0.5 is ok with running 7.75 gals of e85 n rest 93.

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That is normal ignition for idle condition and you should not worry about it. What is your ignition at WOT?
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That is normal ignition for idle condition and you should not worry about it. What is your ignition at WOT?
That was right after wot I could take snap shot again at wot but it stays under 1 normally .2-.5 range
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Under 3 for E85 usage is good and you're under that so even better.
Did you test your ethanol content before pouring ?

Here's a logging parameters and their meaning
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Avg Ign: Average Ignition Retard. A JB4 calculated value with a range of 0 - 6 that represents the average amount of timing below the maximum possible curve over a short term window. Lower values indicate a higher overall ignition advance while higher values indicate a lower overall ignition curve. This calculation is used by the JB4 for evaluating octane content by both map 5 (auto learning) and map 3 (methanol injection). Values below about 1.5 result in full Map 3 or Map 5 scheduled boost levels.
Values between about 1.5 and 6.0 result in lower and lower boost targets as an added safety feature for these two maps. As a general rule when using meth, race gas, or heavy E85 mixtures look for values below 2.0. When using pump gas expect values of 5 or higher.
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      07-05-2016, 08:44 PM   #5
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Under 3 for E85 usage is good and you're under that so even better.
Did you test your ethanol content before pouring ?

Here's a logging parameters and their meaning
http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21269

Avg Ign: Average Ignition Retard. A JB4 calculated value with a range of 0 - 6 that represents the average amount of timing below the maximum possible curve over a short term window. Lower values indicate a higher overall ignition advance while higher values indicate a lower overall ignition curve. This calculation is used by the JB4 for evaluating octane content by both map 5 (auto learning) and map 3 (methanol injection). Values below about 1.5 result in full Map 3 or Map 5 scheduled boost levels.
Values between about 1.5 and 6.0 result in lower and lower boost targets as an added safety feature for these two maps. As a general rule when using meth, race gas, or heavy E85 mixtures look for values below 2.0. When using pump gas expect values of 5 or higher.
No I don't know how to check the ethanol content.
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      07-06-2016, 09:36 AM   #6
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No I don't know how to check the ethanol content.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251447717425...&sojTags=bu=bu

Friend of mine tested 1 station he use to go to and it was only E70 content, you cannot waste your time with less than E80 content.
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Also whats your FP_H under WOT?
If 11 or under you have too much e85 that your HPFP can handle
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Also whats your FP_H under WOT?
If 11 or under you have too much e85 that your pump can handle
I'll check it out thx
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I'll check it out thx
You can also get some more direct views on the n54tech.com forums from more JB4 experts
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      07-08-2016, 04:51 PM   #10
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Also whats your FP_H under WOT?
If 11 or under you have too much e85 that your pump can handle
I'll check it out thx
FPH stayed at 16-17 at wot and ign .3 psi 19

100F outside lol
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FPH stayed at 16-17 at wot and ign .3 psi 19

100F outside lol
Thats really good lol, only map5 ?
have you tried on map1 or 2 too ?
Do you have EWG wires ? or just the FF/E85 wires connected

I only had 4 gallons of Pure E85 + 12 gallons of 93 on map1 my avg_ign was .5 and map2 .9-1.2 range which is still awesome. (20-21 psi) since my runs 13 psi stock
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FPH stayed at 16-17 at wot and ign .3 psi 19

100F outside lol
Thats really good lol, only map5 ?
have you tried on map1 or 2 too ?
Do you have EWG wires ? or just the FF/E85 wires connected

I only had 4 gallons of Pure E85 + 12 gallons of 93 on map1 my avg_ign was .5 and map2 .9-1.2 range which is still awesome. (20-21 psi) since my runs 13 psi stock
I don't have EWG just n85 wires and 7.75 gals of e85. I never tried map 1 and 2 as boost would be limited to 14 psi max I think. I tried map 7 no issues and also map 6 with higher boost levels and still no issue. I have set my boost safety to 23psi and run map5 only as it gives me boost at the same levels of map 7 or higher. I just feel safer on map5.
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I don't have EWG just n85 wires and 7.75 gals of e85. I never tried map 1 and 2 as boost would be limited to 14 psi max I think. I tried map 7 no issues and also map 6 with higher boost levels and still no issue. I have set my boost safety to 23psi and run map5 only as it gives me boost at the same levels of map 7 or higher. I just feel safer on map5.
Pretty crazy lol, have you taken it to the 1/4 mile or dyno yet?
Would be awesome to see how it does on your different maps versus delta (map4)

PM me your Map6 configs if you dont mind
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I don't have EWG just n85 wires and 7.75 gals of e85. I never tried map 1 and 2 as boost would be limited to 14 psi max I think. I tried map 7 no issues and also map 6 with higher boost levels and still no issue. I have set my boost safety to 23psi and run map5 only as it gives me boost at the same levels of map 7 or higher. I just feel safer on map5.
Pretty crazy lol, have you taken it to the 1/4 mile or dyno yet?
Would be awesome to see how it does on your different maps versus delta (map4)

PM me your Map6 configs if you dont mind
As requested but I use map 5 mostly
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Thanks GTATX who configured map6 for you ? have you posted your logs / settings on n54tech or sent to Terry curious ?

FF/Wasteadaption is so high never seen that before
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Thanks GTATX who configured map6 for you ? have you posted your logs / settings on n54tech or sent to Terry curious ?

FF/Wasteadaption is so high never seen that before
I only changed map 6 boost numbers myself. Rest are default or adapted due to map 5 I assume. Never touched other values.
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Thanks GTATX who configured map6 for you ? have you posted your logs / settings on n54tech or sent to Terry curious ?

FF/Wasteadaption is so high never seen that before
I know it maxs out at 150 but is it a worrying issue. Never had any issue with the car.
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I know it maxs out at 150 but is it a worrying issue. Never had any issue with the car.
Got any logs?
Have you posted on N54tech ?
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I know it maxs out at 150 but is it a worrying issue. Never had any issue with the car.
Got any logs?
Have you posted on N54tech ?
Haven't done logs been running fine but will post logs when get a chance.
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Your FF/Wastegate Adaptation is really high, send a log to Terry@burgertuning.com or post it on the forum i remember seeing someone lately and 150 is bad. Being so close to 150 I would try putting it back to 60 and see if it re-learns.
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