URGENT 550i F10 issues, ignition wont start

basemodel325 · 02-05-2017, 01:55 PM

hey guys i havent had my 550i too long and today i was cruising to town and randomly the car shuts off. wasnt rough, no previous issues at all. it just dies.

pulled over, car will not start. it DOES crank but wont start.

it said ignition malfunction but now it does not say it. no codes i have already scanned.

my question is, what could cause this?

ignition module? fuel pump/module? starter?

SLVSRFR · 02-05-2017, 07:19 PM

The car shut off while driving? Only a few things would cause this. I.e. Alternator.

Or will it not start after you turned it off? If so, it could be a myriad of things. Starter, fuel pump, seized engine, etc

basemodel325 · 02-05-2017, 07:20 PM

Update for you guys, thanks for the reply. I went back a few hours later and it started just fine. I filled it up with premium and go for a drive to maker sure it's good. It sounds like my timing chain is slapping and it didn't happen until this issue.

doublemetreF10 · 02-06-2017, 05:58 AM

Dying while driving, but cranks immediately after dying? Sounds like a loss of fuel to me, maybe your High Pressure Fuel Pump (HPFP) is on it's way out.

However, if I'm not mistaken, the warning message with that issue is more commonly "Engine Malfunction - Reduced Power", not an ignition issue message, however I'm sure depending on the actual cause of your issue the sensors could interpret failures differently.

I'd get that looked at ASAP, please post your findings.

doublemetreF10 · 02-06-2017, 06:01 AM

Do you not usually run premium fuel?

basemodel325 · 02-06-2017, 07:33 AM

I do run 93. It didn't start for two hours but going to the dealer this morning.

doublemetreF10 · 02-06-2017, 01:02 PM

Ah. Just checking. Best of luck, keep us posted.

basemodel325 · 02-06-2017, 01:03 PM

When to the dealer today. On the way it threw a code for lean. The dealer is still checking over the noise issue. Possibly detonation. No clue.

The_M6 · 02-06-2017, 01:27 PM

Under warranty?

Just curious as I'm a 550i owner as well and I'm always nervous when I hear these stories wondering when I'll be posting something like this.

basemodel325 · 02-06-2017, 01:28 PM

70,400 miles. Out of warranty and just bought it Saturday

basemodel325 · 02-06-2017, 01:29 PM

It reaaaaally sounds like rod knock but it doesn't have any codes other than the recent lean code, it drives fine now but just the noise is awful. (No it's not injector tick lol)

korrosive · 02-07-2017, 12:00 PM

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70,400 miles. Out of warranty and just bought it Saturday

Oh my

Sorry to hear that. What did the dealer determine?

EL Jeffe 5 · 02-07-2017, 03:03 PM

Camshaft sensor? might be bad

basemodel325 · 02-07-2017, 03:05 PM

No codes other than Lean codes. It runs fine and doesn't shut off or ahyrhingn. Just knocks or taps

basemodel325 · 02-09-2017, 11:35 AM

I'm back. Dealer and another trusted shop said rod knock.
What to do next? I don't know

It still runs perfect no carnage internally just knocks a bit. I can't afford the 8,000 used motor replacement

ezaircon4jc · 02-09-2017, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by basemodel325

I'm back. Dealer and another trusted shop said rod knock.
What to do next? I don't know

It still runs perfect no carnage internally just knocks a bit. I can't afford the 8,000 used motor replacement

It'll be now or later when a rod punches a hole in the block...

What about a rebuild?

basemodel325 · 02-09-2017, 02:07 PM

A rebuild wouldn't be too bad depending on labor costs for removing rebuilding and re installing engine.

ezaircon4jc · 02-09-2017, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by basemodel325

A rebuild wouldn't be too bad depending on labor costs for removing rebuilding and re installing engine.

I would explore that option first...

razfrankel · 01-16-2024, 08:27 AM

Yesterday my car didn’t start last night and after work and in the morning I tired with the key next to the steering column it worked after that my dad helped I think it’s the car battery or the car keys or the ignition or alternator.

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basemodel325 New Member 6 Rep 29 Posts Drives: bmw 550i Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: lr arkansas iTrader: (0)	URGENT 550i F10 issues, ignition wont start hey guys i havent had my 550i too long and today i was cruising to town and randomly the car shuts off. wasnt rough, no previous issues at all. it just dies. pulled over, car will not start. it DOES crank but wont start. it said ignition malfunction but now it does not say it. no codes i have already scanned. my question is, what could cause this? ignition module? fuel pump/module? starter?
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02-05-2017, 07:19 PM	#2
SLVSRFR Captain 245 Rep 785 Posts Drives: BMW 550i Join Date: May 2015 Location: SoCal iTrader: (0)	The car shut off while driving? Only a few things would cause this. I.e. Alternator. Or will it not start after you turned it off? If so, it could be a myriad of things. Starter, fuel pump, seized engine, etc
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basemodel325 New Member 6 Rep 29 Posts Drives: bmw 550i Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: lr arkansas iTrader: (0)	Update for you guys, thanks for the reply. I went back a few hours later and it started just fine. I filled it up with premium and go for a drive to maker sure it's good. It sounds like my timing chain is slapping and it didn't happen until this issue.
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02-06-2017, 05:58 AM	#4
doublemetreF10 Enlisted Member 2 Rep 39 Posts Drives: '13 F10 535xi N55 Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Indianapolis, IN USA iTrader: (0)	Dying while driving, but cranks immediately after dying? Sounds like a loss of fuel to me, maybe your High Pressure Fuel Pump (HPFP) is on it's way out. However, if I'm not mistaken, the warning message with that issue is more commonly "Engine Malfunction - Reduced Power", not an ignition issue message, however I'm sure depending on the actual cause of your issue the sensors could interpret failures differently. I'd get that looked at ASAP, please post your findings. __________________ TO SEE THE WORLD, THINGS DANGEROUS TO COME TO, TO SEE BEHIND WALLS, TO DRAW CLOSER, TO FIND EACH OTHER AND TO FEEL. THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF LIFE.
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doublemetreF10 Enlisted Member 2 Rep 39 Posts Drives: '13 F10 535xi N55 Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Indianapolis, IN USA iTrader: (0)	Do you not usually run premium fuel? __________________ TO SEE THE WORLD, THINGS DANGEROUS TO COME TO, TO SEE BEHIND WALLS, TO DRAW CLOSER, TO FIND EACH OTHER AND TO FEEL. THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF LIFE.
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02-06-2017, 07:33 AM	#6
basemodel325 New Member 6 Rep 29 Posts Drives: bmw 550i Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: lr arkansas iTrader: (0)	I do run 93. It didn't start for two hours but going to the dealer this morning.
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doublemetreF10 Enlisted Member 2 Rep 39 Posts Drives: '13 F10 535xi N55 Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Indianapolis, IN USA iTrader: (0)	Ah. Just checking. Best of luck, keep us posted. __________________ TO SEE THE WORLD, THINGS DANGEROUS TO COME TO, TO SEE BEHIND WALLS, TO DRAW CLOSER, TO FIND EACH OTHER AND TO FEEL. THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF LIFE.
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basemodel325 New Member 6 Rep 29 Posts Drives: bmw 550i Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: lr arkansas iTrader: (0)	When to the dealer today. On the way it threw a code for lean. The dealer is still checking over the noise issue. Possibly detonation. No clue.
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The_M6 Lieutenant 248 Rep 544 Posts Drives: 2013 M6 Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: AL iTrader: (0)	Under warranty? Just curious as I'm a 550i owner as well and I'm always nervous when I hear these stories wondering when I'll be posting something like this. __________________ Project Gamma Intakes / Project Gamma Catless Downpipes / Muffler Delete / DME Stage II Tune / H&R Springs
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02-06-2017, 01:28 PM	#10
basemodel325 New Member 6 Rep 29 Posts Drives: bmw 550i Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: lr arkansas iTrader: (0)	70,400 miles. Out of warranty and just bought it Saturday
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02-06-2017, 01:29 PM	#11
basemodel325 New Member 6 Rep 29 Posts Drives: bmw 550i Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: lr arkansas iTrader: (0)	It reaaaaally sounds like rod knock but it doesn't have any codes other than the recent lean code, it drives fine now but just the noise is awful. (No it's not injector tick lol)
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EL Jeffe 5 Major 612 Rep 1,254 Posts Drives: CBR1000RR Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Iowa iTrader: (0)	Camshaft sensor? might be bad __________________
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02-07-2017, 03:05 PM	#14
basemodel325 New Member 6 Rep 29 Posts Drives: bmw 550i Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: lr arkansas iTrader: (0)	No codes other than Lean codes. It runs fine and doesn't shut off or ahyrhingn. Just knocks or taps
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basemodel325 New Member 6 Rep 29 Posts Drives: bmw 550i Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: lr arkansas iTrader: (0)	I'm back. Dealer and another trusted shop said rod knock. What to do next? I don't know It still runs perfect no carnage internally just knocks a bit. I can't afford the 8,000 used motor replacement
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basemodel325 New Member 6 Rep 29 Posts Drives: bmw 550i Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: lr arkansas iTrader: (0)	A rebuild wouldn't be too bad depending on labor costs for removing rebuilding and re installing engine.
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razfrankel Private 3 Rep 55 Posts Drives: 2013 bmw 550i xdrive Join Date: Oct 2023 Location: 11581 iTrader: (0)	Yesterday my car didn’t start last night and after work and in the morning I tired with the key next to the steering column it worked after that my dad helped I think it’s the car battery or the car keys or the ignition or alternator.
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