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      07-25-2011, 05:48 PM   #1
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Hey Guys!
I already ordered my car. 535 m-sport.
However, was doing some reading and am pulling my hair out about the trans. I was told that the sport auto trans is only the ability to shift with paddles. NO difference with the transmission. I know with the m sport I can select driving modes which change throttle response and shift patters and suspension. Am I missing anything? Is there a difference?
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I don't have a DHP (included in msport). However, I get a similar driving mode buttons from sport Auto (normal to sport + instead of comfort to sport +).

In my case it is a no-brainer option.

From my understanding sport auto enhance steering feel, throttle response, faster shifting on top of the driving mode button (even when you don't use the shift paddles).
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      07-25-2011, 06:51 PM   #3
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Hey Guys!
I already ordered my car. 535 m-sport.
However, was doing some reading and am pulling my hair out about the trans. I was told that the sport auto trans is only the ability to shift with paddles. NO difference with the transmission. I know with the m sport I can select driving modes which change throttle response and shift patters and suspension. Am I missing anything? Is there a difference?
I was told the same thing, but seems otherwise from what others on the forum say...I'm not really that ticked off though since I'm getting a 528i and not really expecting that much performance compared to other models.

Anybody know what the performance numbers are for each model? Just curious.
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Hey Guys!
I already ordered my car. 535 m-sport.
However, was doing some reading and am pulling my hair out about the trans. I was told that the sport auto trans is only the ability to shift with paddles. NO difference with the transmission. I know with the m sport I can select driving modes which change throttle response and shift patters and suspension. Am I missing anything? Is there a difference?
The SAT is supposed to have quicker shifts than the standard transmission.

Also, the shifter itself is MUCH nicer, IMO.

I regret not having it..get it, for sure.
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      07-25-2011, 08:35 PM   #5
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Can someone please clarify? It seems like no one is to sure. I really think its just the paddles and the nicer looking shifter.
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      07-25-2011, 09:02 PM   #6
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Can someone please clarify? It seems like no one is to sure. I really think its just the paddles and the nicer looking shifter.
for your car an MSport version yes.
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anybody have pics showing the differences of the shifters? not sure by googling it.
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anybody have pics showing the differences of the shifters? not sure by googling it.

http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=361027
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Plus you have S mode by slapping the shifter to the right
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      07-26-2011, 07:55 AM   #10
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Plus you have S mode by slapping the shifter to the right
Left?
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Plus you have S mode by slapping the shifter to the right
Both transmissions have that.
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      07-26-2011, 09:23 AM   #12
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I just really wanted to make sure I wasnt missing anything driving wise without the option. I never used the Paddles on my Lexus ISF. Actually I cant say never, but it wasnt very often.
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My 550i with SAT shifts quicker and is well worthwhile.
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....Anybody know what the performance numbers are for each model? Just curious.
This is quite useful in comparing data: http://www.bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/efficient.../carcomparator
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The SAT is supposed to have quicker shifts than the standard transmission.

Also, the shifter itself is MUCH nicer, IMO.
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I just really wanted to make sure I wasnt missing anything driving wise without the option. I never used the Paddles on my Lexus ISF. Actually I cant say never, but it wasnt very often.
I agree with 'Needsdecaf' on both points and, although I haven't had enough experience of the standard auto to enable a comparison, I'm extremely pleased with the SAT in my 535d. I hardly ever use the paddles because the box is so good at shifting by itself and especially fast in sport+, but the extra cash is worth the gear shift lever alone.
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Sport auto brings you paddle shifters which work in all modes and more importantly drive dynamic control, which allows you to set 'normal' 'sport' and 'sport plus' modes. These adjust throttle, steering and gearbox responses and in sport plus the stability control programmes. Sport mode is a superb setting, steering firms up, throttle faster response and the gearbox comes live - brilliant
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      07-26-2011, 10:47 AM   #17
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The m port package had the dynamic handling package and the ability to switch from comfort, normal, sport and sport plus modes. I really think the only difference is the nicer shifter and the paddles
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      07-26-2011, 07:21 PM   #18
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Supposedly it shifts faster.
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