[srtrucco]

Well much have been said but which would really be a more reliable yet aggressive option for my 535i M Sport? Even the Dinan N55 535i Tune is not available yet, there must be some of you that may tell me about your experience with Dinan or JB4.

[RambleJ]

Originally Posted by srtrucco

Well much have been said but which would really be a more reliable yet aggressive option for my 535i M Sport? Even the Dinan N55 535i Tune is not available yet, there must be some of you that may tell me about your experience with Dinan or JB4.

If we are seeing low power increases from piggy backs. Dinan is going to be horrible They usually fall short due to stayin on the conservative side for their warranty program with the I6's.

[cronsdon]

what about the Hartge or Burger? i have a 2012 535i and i was thinking about these. I was unable to open up a new thread because im new here... Any discussion or advice(help/explanations) would be much appreciated.

[Alan l.]

Without a doubt Hartge is a better tune just because of the company itself. Hartge is like the Sony of tv's while Burger is like a vizio.

With burger you get a lot of bang for you buck plus somewhat support (not much since they only care about the 3 series guys). Hartge is more than double the price and you don't have any support here in NA. (They are based in Europe)

Alan

[srtrucco]

Originally Posted by Alan l.

Without a doubt Hartge is a better tune just because of the company itself. Hartge is like the Sony of tv's while Burger is like a vizio.

With burger you get a lot of bang for you buck plus somewhat support (not much since they only care about the 3 series guys). Hartge is more than double the price and you don't have any support here in NA. (They are based in Europe)

Alan

Do you have any of the two?

[Alan l.]

I have the jb4 stage 2. Works and no complaints so far. Noticeable increase from stock power.

Alan

[sycd]

Originally Posted by Alan l.

Without a doubt Hartge is a better tune just because of the company itself. Hartge is like the Sony of tv's while Burger is like a vizio.

With burger you get a lot of bang for you buck plus somewhat support (not much since they only care about the 3 series guys). Hartge is more than double the price and you don't have any support here in NA. (They are based in Europe)

Alan

Hartge is a piggyback. What can they do that Burger can't?

Is Dinan the only hope in town for an ECU programming solution when it comes to the F10?

[Alan l.]

Originally Posted by sycd

Hartge is a piggyback. What can they do that Burger can't?

Is Dinan the only hope in town for an ECU programming solution when it comes to the F10?

I can't say for sure but Hartge has way more access to Bmw information and technology unlike Burgertuning which is basically just a one man shop. I'm sure the tuning methods are different based on all the history Hartge has working on Bmw's. They do major engine transplants that we can only dream about here in the states. Both systems work the same way in theory but what separates them is the control box (the brains) between both tunes.

I don't have high hopes for Dinan either based on what they came out with for the N54 335 platform. Cost the most and made the least amount of horsepower compared to every other tune for that car. Personally I am waiting for Cobb to come out with a flash solution for the F10. Handheld flash device that can also log data and read/clear codes for around $8-900 is ideal for me. Thats what i had on my 335 and I loved it.

Alan

[cronsdon]

thx for all the good feed back Alan! I have another questions do you think it would be better for me to get a custom dyno tuning at http://dyno-comp.com/tuning.php ? I am located in the Phoenix area and I think these guys are the best in town for this...?

[Alan l.]

Can't say i've heard of them before. I don't anyone that's actually able to tune our cars via flash method yet.

Alan