F10 weight/size/weight distribution

bum944 · 04-23-2010, 10:39 AM

As a former E39 owner and prospective F10 owner, I've been a bit behind in keeping up with the F10 info. I must admit to having some concerns about the design direction of this model.

I really liked the previous generations which seemed to be more like an up-sized 3 series, but now I've heard they are more like a down-sized 7 series which is borne out by the dimensions.

Another concern is the weight which I think I read is around 400 lbs heavier! With new emissions and fuel consumption rules in America, isn't this the opposite direction to go? Granted, America is only one market, but a significant one I think.

I even read a so-so road test somewhere and CAR (the UK magazine) has questioned whether BMW is is still "the ultimate driving machine" in order to attract a wider audience presumably for survival purposes.

I recall when the E60 was introduced, BMW stated the purpose of the aluminum front structure was to keep a roughly 50/50 weight distribution. Now they are back to steel, but with aluminum for the hood and doors? (front fenders too?) Does the new model still keep the 50/50 weight distribution? This has always been one of BMW's biggest advantages although there are tradeoffs like less interior space and maybe trunk as well.

So, maybe from my lack of keeping up, this model seems a bit too big and heavy although it has better proportions especially in the rear which I could never get over to consider an E60. Please tell me my concerns are due to ignorance and this model is a step in the right direction. I'm concerned about buying a car that weighs about as much as an SUV.

HighlandPete · 04-23-2010, 11:04 AM

I personally feel the F10 is the natural progression from the E39, rather than from the E60.

The weight according to BMW data is 110kgs heavier (auto) than the E60 in standard spec.

HighlandPete

Rich535d · 04-23-2010, 03:21 PM

Yes, BMW claim 50:50 weight distribution. Whilst it may be heavier, it does use aluminium (aluminum for US readers!) for doors, bonnet (hood) and boot (trunk).
As far as emissions are concerned, F10 is way ahead of E60; likewise with fuel consumption

Whteverjklasdf · 04-23-2010, 08:30 PM

What's with the obsession with the 50/50 weight dist.? Many cars with excellent handling do not have such weight distribution.

Let's face it... cars have grown in every makes and models. One cannot expect to buy something new and hoping they would stay the same.

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bum944 Enlisted Member 1 Rep 43 Posts Drives: Join Date: Nov 2006 iTrader: (0)	F10 weight/size/weight distribution As a former E39 owner and prospective F10 owner, I've been a bit behind in keeping up with the F10 info. I must admit to having some concerns about the design direction of this model. I really liked the previous generations which seemed to be more like an up-sized 3 series, but now I've heard they are more like a down-sized 7 series which is borne out by the dimensions. Another concern is the weight which I think I read is around 400 lbs heavier! With new emissions and fuel consumption rules in America, isn't this the opposite direction to go? Granted, America is only one market, but a significant one I think. I even read a so-so road test somewhere and CAR (the UK magazine) has questioned whether BMW is is still "the ultimate driving machine" in order to attract a wider audience presumably for survival purposes. I recall when the E60 was introduced, BMW stated the purpose of the aluminum front structure was to keep a roughly 50/50 weight distribution. Now they are back to steel, but with aluminum for the hood and doors? (front fenders too?) Does the new model still keep the 50/50 weight distribution? This has always been one of BMW's biggest advantages although there are tradeoffs like less interior space and maybe trunk as well. So, maybe from my lack of keeping up, this model seems a bit too big and heavy although it has better proportions especially in the rear which I could never get over to consider an E60. Please tell me my concerns are due to ignorance and this model is a step in the right direction. I'm concerned about buying a car that weighs about as much as an SUV.
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Whteverjklasdf First Lieutenant 20 Rep 301 Posts Drives: . Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: . iTrader: (0)	What's with the obsession with the 50/50 weight dist.? Many cars with excellent handling do not have such weight distribution. Let's face it... cars have grown in every makes and models. One cannot expect to buy something new and hoping they would stay the same.
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