[Boss330]

UPDATED:

Official LCI Brochure in German

Brochure:
F10 5 Series LCI Catalog

LCI information in detail (PDF):
The_new_BMW_5_Series[1].pdf

[ErnestHouse]

Is that different from the one in the sticky here?
http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=842774

[numbersguy]

I just got a 2013 535i so I was interested in the spec sheet on pages 26 and 27. The engine output is unchanged, as expected, but the new car is a little lighter and a little quicker. 0-100 kph with the automatic drops from 5.9 sec to 5.7.

The 550 is a lot quicker.

[K-A]

Originally Posted by numbersguy

I just got a 2013 535i so I was interested in the spec sheet on pages 26 and 27. The engine output is unchanged, as expected, but the new car is a little lighter and a little quicker. 0-100 kph with the automatic drops from 5.9 sec to 5.7.

The 550 is a lot quicker.

Wow, 5.9 is way off as magazine tests have gotten the 535i in the low 5 second range pretty consistently. Then again, I just realized it's kph which I dunno what MPH that would be (I'm talking 0-60 times).

I wonder how they supposedly knocked weight off of the 2014's? Sounds oddly impossible considering the changes we know. 550i will obviously be faster due to a solid increase in power.

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by ErnestHouse

Is that different from the one in the sticky here?
http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=842774

Eeehhh, yes...

One is a US price list, the other is a complete overview of all the changes that LCI introduces and a fairly exhaustive technical data sheet for each model. Didn't you open the attachment?

[ErnestHouse]

Originally Posted by Boss330

...Didn't you open the attachment?

Yes. It was already in my downloads folder too and I recognized it from a couple weeks ago. But it's not in the sticky I referenced. Must have been a different forum. My bad.

Regardless, either one of the 2014 sticky posts would be a great place for it so it stays visible over time.

[numbersguy]

Originally Posted by K-A

Wow, 5.9 is way off as magazine tests have gotten the 535i in the low 5 second range pretty consistently. Then again, I just realized it's kph which I dunno what MPH that would be (I'm talking 0-60 times).

Knock off about .2 sec to approximate 0-60. That would make the old number 5.7, which is what BMW quoted in US specs, and the new number 5.5. It's not a difference that most people could tell but BMW is pretty consistent when measuring performance even if their times are a little high.

If the new car is quicker I'm guessing it's the transmission. I didn't check the gear ratios but the specs are there.

[numbersguy]

Gear ratios are unchanged.

[K-A]

Thanks for checking on that. So I'm wondering what the difference in time would be?

My assumption/theory is that BMW provided too large a "safety net" of high-time for the 535i (kind of how they underrate the HP/TQ output of it, yet in that case it helps lower insurance costs), so without any changes they can get away with lowering the time down to a closer real-world accuracy and still have enough of a "safety net" in terms of false-advertising claims (manufacturers always understate their 0-60 performance figures).

Of course, different tires, or most likely the *New Launch Control* could very well be the difference right there. I can't fathom the facelift shedding one pound under the pre-facelift so that can't be it.

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by ErnestHouse

Yes. It was already in my downloads folder too and I recognized it from a couple weeks ago. But it's not in the sticky I referenced. Must have been a different forum. My bad.

Regardless, either one of the 2014 sticky posts would be a great place for it so it stays visible over time.

Agreed on the sticky

Have posted a reply here: http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthre...0#post14150260

If the mods want to include the info in the original post that would probably be beneficial.

[numbersguy]

I don't think BMW is playing games for insurance purposes. I think they have a very conservative testing protocol so that customers won't be disappointed when they try to duplicate factory performance numbers. It's called "managing expectations."

Different transmission programming might shave a couple of tenths.

The weight numbers seem to be lower compared with euro specs listed for 2013 cars but who knows. There's different industry standards for measuring weight just like there are for engine output.

It's the same car with very minor changes.

[rsyed]

the new launch control results in faster 0-60 times..

[K-A]

That's gotta be it. The launch control.