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      06-04-2013, 01:57 PM   #1
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driving a boat

is it jus me but around the corners does your 5 series feel like a boat? my wife was in front of me in her stock A4 and I couldn't keep up I'm no race car driver but I can handle the twisties jus feels sloppy on the corners and I would expect from BMW to have made a better handling car than this
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      06-04-2013, 02:17 PM   #2
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my wife was in front of me in her stock A4 and I couldn't keep
I'd say that, more than anything else, your wife is just a better driver then you.
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      06-04-2013, 02:26 PM   #3
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What options does your F10 have?
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      06-04-2013, 02:43 PM   #4
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An A6 probably could not keep up with the 3 series either in the twisties, you are comparing two difference class of cars.
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      06-04-2013, 02:58 PM   #5
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My 530d with 17" wheels on comfort mode does feel like a boat.

What variant is the F10 and A4?
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      06-04-2013, 03:26 PM   #6
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What options does your F10 have?
+1

Like comparing apples and pears anyway, but there are differences across the F10/F11 range according to suspension/wheel specification.

My F11 (with Adaptive Drive) is big, compared to a 3-series or A4, but no way a boat.

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535 with sport package
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      06-04-2013, 05:10 PM   #8
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is it jus me but around the corners does your 5 series feel like a boat? my wife was in front of me in her stock A4 and I couldn't keep up I'm no race car driver but I can handle the twisties jus feels sloppy on the corners and I would expect from BMW to have made a better handling car than this
Do you have ARS?
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      06-04-2013, 05:39 PM   #9
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is it jus me but around the corners does your 5 series feel like a boat? my wife was in front of me in her stock A4 and I couldn't keep up I'm no race car driver but I can handle the twisties jus feels sloppy on the corners and I would expect from BMW to have made a better handling car than this
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Do you have ARS?
I have a 550i msport with ARS, 4 wheel steering, the electronic suspension, and lowered on ACS springs with pilot super sports on the stock 19s.....and the damn thing handles like a huge go kart. I regularly hit 40 degree curves at 75mph while still accelerating and passing.....although I have to say that the weight of this car is very obvious when you're driving since I can feel it working extra hard to maintain stability. Point is....IMHO....the F10, when properly optioned (and perhaps modded with tires/springs) can outhandle most other large sport sedans in its class, and definitely can't be mistaken as a boat.

Aside from reduced weight, I think if the F10 came with larger/ventilated brakes (as an option perhaps) then it would be a much better handling car. I recently saw a mercedes c320 with ventilated brakes and was actually surprised that BMW doesn't offer it for the F10 other than a M5.
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Unless you have an F10 with all the suspension-gizmo mods checked off or much better yet the more lowered 2013 M Sport passive suspension, your F10 will probably feel boat-ish. Good or bad, it's just the way BMW engineered the F10, and apparently the F30 is similar.
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      06-04-2013, 09:46 PM   #11
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Unless you have an F10 with all the suspension-gizmo mods checked off or much better yet the more lowered 2013 M Sport passive suspension, your F10 will probably feel boat-ish. Good or bad, it's just the way BMW engineered the F10, and apparently the F30 is similar.
Agreed

My 2012 528i Msport was RWD, had staggered wheel/tires, and DDC. - The steering and handling was horrendous. I couldn't wait to get rid of it fast enough.

The 2013 Msport comes with the REAL sport suspension and much BETTER steering. No speed sensitive nonsense.
Warning: The ride will be on the rough side over bad roads though. I know im in NYC.
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I have a 550i msport with ARS, 4 wheel steering, the electronic suspension, and lowered on ACS springs with pilot super sports on the stock 19s.....and the damn thing handles like a huge go kart.
This

Mine feels the same to me and mine does it with standard springs. It is certainly no boat.
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If your F10 feels like a boat, my F02 would feel like a yacht. I'm sure I can chase down an A4 with 2.0T at least.
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It's a damn fine boat that can outpace a Mini Coupe John Cooper Works from a standing start round a 40-45 degree bend joining the motorway

Standard suspension on 18" wheels, last night's commute.
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If your F10 feels like a boat, my F02 would feel like a yacht. I'm sure I can chase down an A4 with 2.0T at least.
The F10 cannot even chase down a A6 in the twisties according to the car and driver test, what make you think it can chase down a smaller and better handling A4?
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I had 2 f10 550i with dhp and ias, lowered on acs springs, 20in wheels with low profile pss. And yes, they are definitely boats. Even in sport mode, they can only be classifies as a speedboat.

So, I ditched the last f10 and gpt a f06 650i. Now I have a proper bmw without any mods.
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I had 2 f10 550i with dhp and ias, lowered on acs springs, 20in wheels with low profile pss. And yes, they are definitely boats. Even in sport mode, they can only be classifies as a speedboat.

So, I ditched the last f10 and gpt a f06 650i. Now I have a proper bmw without any mods.
Good to hear that you are enjoying your 650! Planning to do the same thing...
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Excuse my f10 "newb-ness" but what is ARS?
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To take the OP's comparison to the extreme, an Audi Q7 cannot keep up with an Audi TT in the twisties either
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