[Sales@RKautowerks]

Hey guys!

I had a friend who wanted a set of intakes for his car so i was going to see if there would be interest in having more than 1 set made.

I have a 3d scanner so these will fit like a glove, i plan on having the filter inside the kidney grills. The MAF location diameter would be the same but i would be enlarging the rest of the setup to reduce pumping losses for the turbo.

Here are some pics of what i have. I was looking at making these in carbon fiber, to make it economical they would probably be around $1500 a set.

Just throwing ideas around to see if the community would be interested while i'm doing this for him. His set will be in 3d printed plastic but i'm sure he'd love to have a set in carbon as well.

-Carbon fiber intakes
-Reduced pumping loss for power gains
-OEM fitment
-No MAF errors
-Reversible installation




Thanks

[BoogieMan2]

I'm in

[550Reasons]

interesting idea.

[Simple5]

More options the better!

[gclions]

How do you plan to install filters?

[Sales@RKautowerks]

Inside the kidney grills

[DeividF80M3]

Nice idea!

[badblack550xi]

Very nice good luck .

[Sales@RKautowerks]

for those still hanging around i got the M5 intakes today, here's a picture. I'll get more this weekend as we install them. I've also attached a video when we were doing durability testing.

[Sales@RKautowerks]

Here are the final F10 M5 intakes.







Thanks
-R

[badblack550xi]

looks like a replica of MSR intake minus the filters

[Sales@RKautowerks]

Originally Posted by badblack550xi

looks like a replica of MSR intake minus the filters

Far from that, MSR intakes have the MAF that is not in the OEM location, flow considerably less, much smaller filter, and heat soak because they're aluminum.

The flow numbers alone demonstrate that.



-R

[SLVSRFR]

They definitely have similarities with MSR. The real question is there any substantial proof that they PRODUCE (hence I didnt use the word MAKE) more power than MSR intakes, or any intake that's currently on the market for that matter?

Everything that has been brought up in these threads are theoretical. Numbers should do the talking.

[Sales@RKautowerks]

Originally Posted by BCK2BLN

They definitely have similarities with MSR. The real question is there any substantial proof that they PRODUCE (hence I didnt use the word MAKE) more power than MSR intakes, or any intake that's currently on the market for that matter?

Everything that has been brought up in these threads are theoretical. Numbers should do the talking.

Flow bench isn't theoretical, because if that's theoretical, then we're going nowhere. Theoretical would be calculating the surface area and the reynolds number. Flow bench data analysis is not that. It's isolating your component under the same conditions to quantify real gains.

The problem with everyone on here and their "numbers dont lie" is that they don't have the slightest clue where numbers come from and how to quantify them. But i'll spare myself that debate because that's one i don't care to have.

But regardless i'll get you guys dyno numbers. But even then i find dyno numbers kind of funny, guys put cars on a chassis dyno and then compare numbers without quantifying where benefits came from. I run a multimillion dollar dyno cell and you'd be surprised what a few degrees of ignition, coolant temp, or atmospheric conditions will do.

Show me a dyno pull with IG, backpressure, manifold pressure, coolant temp in/out, cam phasing, fixed mapping, and i'll listen to you talk numbers.

It's easy to produce big numbers, it's hard to quantify where there's numbers came from. Very few of us on here actually have the knowledge to do that.

-R

PS: i've already verified the rapid prototypes produce power. Just need to go back to the dyno sometime this week. I'll get you everything and log everything as well.

[SLVSRFR]

Originally Posted by DallasM5

Flow bench isn't theoretical, because if that's theoretical, then we're going nowhere. Theoretical would be calculating the surface area and the reynolds number. Flow bench data analysis is not that. It's isolating your component under the same conditions to quantify real gains.

The problem with everyone on here and their "numbers dont lie" is that they don't have the slightest clue where numbers come from and how to quantify them. But i'll spare myself that debate because that's one i don't care to have.

But regardless i'll get you guys dyno numbers. But even then i find dyno numbers kind of funny, guys put cars on a chassis dyno and then compare numbers without quantifying where benefits came from. I run a multimillion dollar dyno cell and you'd be surprised what a few degrees of ignition, coolant temp, or atmospheric conditions will do.

Show me a dyno pull with IG, backpressure, manifold pressure, coolant temp in/out, cam phasing, fixed mapping, and i'll listen to you talk numbers.

It's easy to produce big numbers, it's hard to quantify where there's numbers came from. Very few of us on here actually have the knowledge to do that.

-R

PS: i've already verified the rapid prototypes produce power. Just need to go back to the dyno sometime this week. I'll get you everything and log everything as well.

First, I understand what you're saying/getting at and I totally agree.

However, the consumer doesn't really care about the technicalities of what goes into designing an intake. All they care about is the end state, you could explain everything you just mentioned to the average joe that walks into a performance shop and all he is going to care about is if it produces more power for his vehicle. That is the end state.

I personally don't look at dyno's. They're falsifiable and every application is different, especially for intakes. There is no real way to generate the elements that real road driving implicates. 1/4 times is the money maker especially if you can directly compare them with stock times/competing product times.

[krautmeister]

Dallas M5, great work. I'm new to this car, but not new to product development.

Seems you have it commercially ready so are you officially selling them or marketing them? When will you release "HP numbers"? I think for the most part, I'm interested in the sound and visceral experience vs. pure power as I am never going to tune my car to that level... at least not this one!!

[BlackWidow]

Originally Posted by krautmeister

Dallas M5, great work. I'm new to this car, but not new to product development.

Seems you have it commercially ready so are you officially selling them or marketing them? When will you release "HP numbers"? I think for the most part, I'm interested in the sound and visceral experience vs. pure power as I am never going to tune my car to that level... at least not this one!!

Contradictory question to statement relationship there. But there is an exceptional product already available that has amazing sound/performance if you don't already know. They are badblack's intakes and they are cheaper then what these are projected to sell for.

[Fishsticks]

Is this still being made? Judging by the pics of the M5 set up, it looks like a well made intake.

[Sales@RKautowerks]

Originally Posted by Fishsticks

Is this still being made? Judging by the pics of the M5 set up, it looks like a well made intake.

Yes they are, i got sidetracked with other projects and moving to the new shop. These are on my to do list, stay tuned guys!

Thanks
-R

[2011BMW550i07]

Originally Posted by DallasM5

Yes they are, i got sidetracked with other projects and moving to the new shop. These are on my to do list, stay tuned guys!

Thanks
-R

What price range would these be around? And curious on what the improvements would be especially if anything over the n63intake. I would be interested to know the difference between the two.

[Boost infection]

Do you have any prototype pictures of the intakes?

Thanks

[Sales@RKautowerks]

Originally Posted by 2011BMW550i07

What price range would these be around? And curious on what the improvements would be especially if anything over the n63intake. I would be interested to know the difference between the two.

Originally Posted by Boost infection

Do you have any prototype pictures of the intakes?

Thanks

I'm going to push hard to get these intakes done within the next 2 weeks. When i scanned the original car i realized i needed more data. I have that now and will be able to design the intakes.

Regarding pricing, i was going to stick around $1500 for a set of intakes for a introductory GB pricing.

Here are some pics of our complete F8x M3/4 intakes.

















-R