[lsturbointeg]

What is MP charging for their stage 2?

[Secret_Asian]

If I understand correctly its an extra $150 according to the website

[vivanapoli806]

I'm wondering how much torque our auto trans can hold. I emailed pure turbos about the stage 1 they have and they said our trans is stronger than the 135/335 and he's seen them hold 600wtq fine. That seems crazy to me

[MissionPerformance]

Originally Posted by lsturbointeg

What is MP charging for their stage 2?

Our stage 2 option costs additional $150. The final price varies, depending on what options you choose.

Originally Posted by vivanapoli806

I'm wondering how much torque our auto trans can hold. I emailed pure turbos about the stage 1 they have and they said our trans is stronger than the 135/335 and he's seen them hold 600wtq fine. That seems crazy to me

That is actually not true. The 8HP45 gearbox is internally identical between 335/435/535. THe gearbox is rated to only 450nm by ZF, but in reality can handle 600NM crank safely. Yes, this gearbox can support 600wtq, but it will not last long.

[vivanapoli806]

Originally Posted by MissionPerformance

Our stage 2 option costs additional $150. The final price varies, depending on what options you choose.

That is actually not true. The 8HP45 gearbox is internally identical between 335/435/535. THe gearbox is rated to only 450nm by ZF, but in reality can handle 600NM crank safely. Yes, this gearbox can support 600wtq, but it will not last long.

I'm most likely getting your stage 2 tune. Whats the max torque you think our autos can hold ?

[MissionPerformance]

Originally Posted by vivanapoli806

I'm most likely getting your stage 2 tune. Whats the max torque you think our autos can hold ?

For both auto and manual, we are limiting torque to around 420ftlb wheel. That is a relatively safe range for both gear boxes.

[vivanapoli806]

Originally Posted by MissionPerformance

For both auto and manual, we are limiting torque to around 420ftlb wheel. That is a relatively safe range for both gear boxes.

If I plan going stage 2 is the 3.5bar upgrade a requirement or only suggested ?

[MissionPerformance]

Originally Posted by vivanapoli806

If I plan going stage 2 is the 3.5bar upgrade a requirement or only suggested ?

Its a suggestion, not a requirement.

[lsturbointeg]

Bmw double, ever plan on upgrading the turbo to the PureTurbo? got the okay from the wife to do the flash tune with MP next winter but also thought about upgrading the turbo to either their stage 1 or 2 and if MP can flash it?

[vivanapoli806]

Originally Posted by lsturbointeg

Bmw double, ever plan on upgrading the turbo to the PureTurbo? got the okay from the wife to do the flash tune with MP next winter but also thought about upgrading the turbo to either their stage 1 or 2 and if MP can flash it?

I thought about going stage 1 myself. It's only $1000. They said lower to mid rpm it's like stock and in higher rpms 50-70whp gain. Have to see what my auto trans can handle safely.

[Bmw doubles]

Originally Posted by lsturbointeg

Bmw double, ever plan on upgrading the turbo to the PureTurbo? got the okay from the wife to do the flash tune with MP next winter but also thought about upgrading the turbo to either their stage 1 or 2 and if MP can flash it?

Yes the turbo upgrade is on the roadmap. MP is putting the finishing touches on the stage 2 tune to see what we can get out of the stock turbo. Once that is complete which is scheduled for this week on the dyno, I'll start heading towards the turbo upgrade. We think we'll be able to get 380whp from the stock turbo. Trans is already safely maxed at 420wtq and that has been performing very well so far. Currently I'm roughly 340/420 total output. Stage 1 from pure is most likely my path too. Pure Stage 1 is the stock wheel just modified. So a stage 2 tune from MP with a stage 1 turbo from pure (providing all the testing goes well this week) it's estimated output for that setup should be about 420/420.

Current stock turbo: 340/420
Projected final tune stock turbo: 380/420
Projected PTS1 420/420
Projected PTS2 520/420

[MasterC17]

Originally Posted by Bmw doubles

Yes the turbo upgrade is on the roadmap. MP is putting the finishing touches on the stage 2 tune to see what we can get out of the stock turbo. Once that is complete which is scheduled for this week on the dyno I'll start heading towards the turbo upgrade. We think we'll be able to get 380whp from the stock turbo. Trans is already safely maxed at 420wtq and that has been performing very well so far. Currently I'm roughly 340/420 total output. Stage 1 from pure is most likely my path too. Pure Stage 1 is the stock wheel just modified. So a stage 2 tune from MP with a stage 1 turbo from pure (providing all the testing goes well this week) it's estimated output for that setup should be about 420/420.

Current stock turbo: 340/420
Projected final tune stock turbo: 380/420
Projected PTS1 420/420
Projected PTS2 520/420

Is this all on Pump 93?

My plan is to go Pure Stage 1 as well.

[Bmw doubles]

Originally Posted by MasterC17

Is this all on Pump 93?

My plan is to go Pure Stage 1 as well.

This planned is with 91 / e40, essentially 93.

[lsturbointeg]

Originally Posted by Bmw doubles

Yes the turbo upgrade is on the roadmap. MP is putting the finishing touches on the stage 2 tune to see what we can get out of the stock turbo. Once that is complete which is scheduled for this week on the dyno, I'll start heading towards the turbo upgrade. We think we'll be able to get 380whp from the stock turbo. Trans is already safely maxed at 420wtq and that has been performing very well so far. Currently I'm roughly 340/420 total output. Stage 1 from pure is most likely my path too. Pure Stage 1 is the stock wheel just modified. So a stage 2 tune from MP with a stage 1 turbo from pure (providing all the testing goes well this week) it's estimated output for that setup should be about 420/420.

Current stock turbo: 340/420
Projected final tune stock turbo: 380/420
Projected PTS1 420/420
Projected PTS2 520/420

AWESOME! so after all said and done when you do the stage 1 PureTurbo upgrade i'm assuming MP will have to make more adjustments correct? i wonder if they could save the settings that way when i send my unit in they can use your file to work off of? i have a shop that can swap the turbo in but i'm on the fence in regards to MP?

[Bmw doubles]

Originally Posted by lsturbointeg

AWESOME! so after all said and done when you do the stage 1 PureTurbo upgrade i'm assuming MP will have to make more adjustments correct? i wonder if they could save the settings that way when i send my unit in they can use your file to work off of? i have a shop that can swap the turbo in but i'm on the fence in regards to MP?

MP can program the tune to any configuration Pure or otherwise. m-boot is the best option out there for bench flashing because of the remote ability. Another reason MP is first choice for flashing is because on the 535 F10 they found what was holding us back from being like our little brothers the F30. Our computers are programmed differently for more grandpa settings. Maf, wastegate, rpm / torque management. That said if you don't address those it won't matter what tune you get, those are the main limiting factors on our F10's. You could get the fanciest tune and biggest turbo and it will all go to waste because those parameters have to be addressed. So yes, MP can tune to your hardware Pure or otherwise.

A piggyback will never fix the above mentioned issues and a flash from else where will not either. MissionPerformance has made hybrid maps that correct our limiters.

[Secret_Asian]

when is your stage 2 tune being finalized? Interested to see the results of that

[Bmw doubles]

Originally Posted by Secret_Asian

when is your stage 2 tune being finalized? Interested to see the results of that

Maybe this Thursday

[lsturbointeg]

Sweet! KEEP us posted!

[Bmw doubles]

We locked in Monday so everyone can attend. Trust me were biting at the bit to see what the stock turbo can really do. Stayed tuned...

[vivanapoli806]

Originally Posted by Bmw doubles

We locked in Monday so everyone can attend. Trust me were biting at the bit to see what the stock turbo can really do. Stayed tuned...

Can't wait for this. Replacing all my coils and getting walnut blast then saving up for this tune.

[Bmw doubles]

Originally Posted by vivanapoli806

Can't wait for this. Replacing all my coils and getting walnut blast then saving up for this tune.

We'll go 0-100 real quick

[PJinCA]

Originally Posted by vivanapoli806

Can't wait for this. Replacing all my coils and getting walnut blast then saving up for this tune.

LOL, me too, I have an appointment for he walnut blasting next weekend.