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      04-30-2017, 09:05 PM   #45
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So today couldn't have gone better with the car, other than hitting limitations of fuel and cooling elements..... rktunes recommended meth and or upgraded fmic after spending a full day with the car it is a MONSTER trq wise, map bar sensor upgrade and meth will allow a bit more top end power which is being affected by temps.....today in ny also hot day I included both my original dyno sheet as well as the updated one from today's session both dyno sessions were dynocom dyno first time was independently linked mobile one. This time it was in ground linked dynocom although they read a bit high i am still more than happy with the results

Both dyno sessions i was fbo (downpipe, chargepipe, intake, and muffler delete) first time i only had 2gallons of e85 vs a 7/e85 10/93 mix now
Yea I spoke to him, looks like the previous dynocom reads a little higher but as long as you have baseline + tune same day same dyno that's all it matters. Not the number but the difference



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Good peak power brotha. its not a turbo limitation when power starts dropping at 5k. There is a missing map from our ecu that needs to be added. Your peak is about correct, but we can hold 310whp to redline on our stock hardware. Cooling is definitely an area we need to address FMIC and meth, but our turbos are capable of more. Let's keep pushing!
I agree, but you either mild down down low/mid-range to compensate top end otherwise if too much in low/mid you don't get to have too much at redline. Personally the way PWG N55 are i would not let it redline since its so much stress on the engine/car and its just blowing hot air even if you can hold more power. Of course, this is only if you're not running Meth or PI, because if you have the added octane go full powerband lol.
I was looking at fuel-it TB application for the N55
http://www.fuel-it.biz/n55-e-series-...ody-injection/

Do you know if this would require an upgrade lpfp?
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I was looking at fuel-it TB application for the N55
http://www.fuel-it.biz/n55-e-series-...ody-injection/

Do you know if this would require an upgrade lpfp?
Ever since Port Injection came out, i' haven't seen or heard of ppl running TBI(also discontinued) on the n54tech forum.

https://www.eospeed.com/collections/...nt=18405502981 You can get this Port Injection with either AIC6 Controller or JB4 Controller. I've spoken to the owner of EOS on FB

https://mmp-e.com/collections/produc...nitrous-option then there's this
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I was looking at fuel-it TB application for the N55
http://www.fuel-it.biz/n55-e-series-...ody-injection/

Do you know if this would require an upgrade lpfp?
That's E-series TBI link, this is the F series link
http://www.fuel-it.biz/n55-f-series-...y-injection-1/

Ever since Port Injection came out, i' haven't seen or heard of ppl running these on the n54tech forum.

https://www.eospeed.com/collections/...nt=18405502981 You can get this Port Injection with either AIC6 Controller or JB4 Controller. I've spoken to the owner of EOS on FB

https://mmp-e.com/collections/produc...nitrous-option then there's this
Damn homie you are always a plethora of resources and knowledge. Thanks for the links
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550 clutch install with UUC SSK. Standby for MP stage 1 turbo, goal 400whp/500wtq no slip...
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550 clutch install with UUC SSK. Standby for MP stage 1 turbo, goal 400whp/500wtq no slip...
I'M PUMPED

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Still have to do a 500+ mile break in, but I've researched an improperly seated clutch could cost you up to 100ft lbs of torque #noglaze. This time I'm going to get my full 500wtq! I've been informed to drive like a grandma in a camary.
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Still have to do a 500+ mile break in, but I've researched an improperly seated clutch could cost you up to 100ft lbs of torque #noglaze. This time I'm going to get my full 500wtq! I've been informed to drive like a grandma in a camary.
I've done some questionable stunts in a Camry...

Either way, looking forward to seeing the gainzzzz
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Any updates?
The updates are my car is with Mission and should have it back in a couple of days. The car will return with a new flash, stage 1 turbo estimated 400whp and 480wtq. Clutch and short shifter the same.

Additional work:
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-new belts, seals and tensioners
-new alternator

Will reveal all very soon
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The updates are my car is with Mission and should have it back in a couple of days. The car will return with a new flash, stage 1 turbo estimated 400whp and 480wtq. Clutch and short shifter the same.

Additional work:
-new water pump
-new hpfp
-new belts, seals and tensioners
-new alternator

Will reveal all very soon
let me know how UUC SSK feels...
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Your limiting factor at the end of the power band is not so much the tune as it is the turbo. Want to get rid of the dip and pull hard all the way to redline without any power loss...get a bigger turbo. OEM turbos are made to be efficient in everyday driving, not so much top end power.
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if you wanna feel like your car is stupid fast add a cage! seriously! lol! can't wait to hear how it all turns out brother!
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https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/s...5-Dyno-Results

535 claims 357whp. At 3700 rpm it peaks and at 5k its game over even though the torque is steady. It just doesn't make sense. Everybody has been saying the turbo is just not capable which is partially true, but the problem stems from BMW using more algorithms then tuners are aware of. That is until now (insert evil laugh).

Not trying to dog on this jemmie guy on bimmerfourms just making the case that MP is the real tune for us F10 people or for BMW PWG applications in general. Also not bagging on BMS. The only way to get past these blockers is to dig into the code and flash accordingly.
I have the Mission Performance Stage One Tune with M-Boot option from Alex on my 2014 Bmw 535i xdrive Pwg and I can say it is the absolute Smoothest tune I have ever had ( I had 3 Different Ecu tunes from 3 different companies ) . No issues whatsoever with the MP tune. The tune feels like a highly refined map that is just Perfect. I am now trying to get a hold of Alex at Mission Performance to go Stage 2 since I got my Downpipe and Charge Pipe. I agree that if u own an F10 N55 , MP is definitely the way to go!!! ....
Now I just need to get a hold of Alex...
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The updates are my car is with Mission and should have it back in a couple of days. The car will return with a new flash, stage 1 turbo estimated 400whp and 480wtq. Clutch and short shifter the same.

Additional work:
-new water pump
-new hpfp
-new belts, seals and tensioners
-new alternator

Will reveal all very soon
what's up with the car Bmw doubles ?
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Case and point:
https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/s...5-Dyno-Results

535 claims 357whp. At 3700 rpm it peaks and at 5k its game over even though the torque is steady. It just doesn't make sense. Everybody has been saying the turbo is just not capable which is partially true, but the problem stems from BMW using more algorithms then tuners are aware of. That is until now (insert evil laugh).

Not trying to dog on this jemmie guy on bimmerfourms just making the case that MP is the real tune for us F10 people or for BMW PWG applications in general. Also not bagging on BMS. The only way to get past these blockers is to dig into the code and flash accordingly.
I have the Mission Performance Stage One Tune with M-Boot option from Alex on my 2014 Bmw 535i xdrive Pwg and I can say it is the absolute Smoothest tune I have ever had ( I had 3 Different Ecu tunes from 3 different companies ) . No issues whatsoever with the MP tune. The tune feels like a highly refined map that is just Perfect. I am now trying to get a hold of Alex at Mission Performance to go Stage 2 since I got my Downpipe and Charge Pipe. I agree that if u own an F10 N55 , MP is definitely the way to go!!! ....
Now I just need to get a hold of Alex...
What downpipe did you get?
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Case and point:
https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/s...5-Dyno-Results

535 claims 357whp. At 3700 rpm it peaks and at 5k its game over even though the torque is steady. It just doesn't make sense. Everybody has been saying the turbo is just not capable which is partially true, but the problem stems from BMW using more algorithms then tuners are aware of. That is until now (insert evil laugh).

Not trying to dog on this jemmie guy on bimmerfourms just making the case that MP is the real tune for us F10 people or for BMW PWG applications in general. Also not bagging on BMS. The only way to get past these blockers is to dig into the code and flash accordingly.
I have the Mission Performance Stage One Tune with M-Boot option from Alex on my 2014 Bmw 535i xdrive Pwg and I can say it is the absolute Smoothest tune I have ever had ( I had 3 Different Ecu tunes from 3 different companies ) . No issues whatsoever with the MP tune. The tune feels like a highly refined map that is just Perfect. I am now trying to get a hold of Alex at Mission Performance to go Stage 2 since I got my Downpipe and Charge Pipe. I agree that if u own an F10 N55 , MP is definitely the way to go!!! ....
Now I just need to get a hold of Alex...
What downpipe did you get?
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Case and point:
https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/s...5-Dyno-Results

535 claims 357whp. At 3700 rpm it peaks and at 5k its game over even though the torque is steady. It just doesn't make sense. Everybody has been saying the turbo is just not capable which is partially true, but the problem stems from BMW using more algorithms then tuners are aware of. That is until now (insert evil laugh).

Not trying to dog on this jemmie guy on bimmerfourms just making the case that MP is the real tune for us F10 people or for BMW PWG applications in general. Also not bagging on BMS. The only way to get past these blockers is to dig into the code and flash accordingly.
I have the Mission Performance Stage One Tune with M-Boot option from Alex on my 2014 Bmw 535i xdrive Pwg and I can say it is the absolute Smoothest tune I have ever had ( I had 3 Different Ecu tunes from 3 different companies ) . No issues whatsoever with the MP tune. The tune feels like a highly refined map that is just Perfect. I am now trying to get a hold of Alex at Mission Performance to go Stage 2 since I got my Downpipe and Charge Pipe. I agree that if u own an F10 N55 , MP is definitely the way to go!!! ....
Now I just need to get a hold of Alex...
What downpipe did you get?
Got the AR Design Catted Downpipe. Don't want that fuel smell.... and don't want car too loud. Want it respectable.... Expensive but Very happy I went this way. Not a huge difference in performance loss going Catted either.
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