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09-05-2011, 11:39 AM | #1 |
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535i or 535d ?
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I will buy a f10 in january 2012 but i hesitate between 535i and 535d. i would some feedback from people who have tried the both. i know that they deliver the same performance, but let me know about the driving feeling. In wich car you feel very well the power ? Thank !! |
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I've had my 535d with sport auto transmission for almost a year and never cease to be amazed at the low end power. I've driven the 535i and although the performance figures are near identical, you need to work the petrol engine hard to get the same thrust as the diesel. There's also a considerable difference in fuel economy.
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09-05-2011, 01:29 PM | #4 |
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The 535d means effortless power delivery and relaxed cruising.
Like Jon said, You need to work the *35i harder to get the same level of performance. The overall experience is a bit more nervous. IMO the D suits such a big car better. But, you gotta give both cars a try and see for yourself. The petrol sounds much better that's for sure.
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09-05-2011, 02:28 PM | #5 |
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In the Top gear test they told that in everyday driving the 535d comes very close to the M5.
Off course if you work the M5 engine its faster, but in normal driving they feel pretty much the same. Not that big a difference in torque between 535d and M5, but a lot of difference in torque if you compare with the 535i - same HP - almost 535i/535D. I don't know if theres a diff in extras, the 535D has auto gearbox and advanced clime control. The fuel economy is much much better in the D-model. |
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09-06-2011, 01:20 PM | #6 |
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thank for your feedbacks. The only thing which makes me hesitate is the diesel sound :-/
Like you say, i've to try the both to make a choice... but the problem in France is that in the most of BMW dealer there are only 520d or 525d or 530d or 523i i've never seen a 535d and 535i. So it is very hard to make a road test. |
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The main reasons I changed is that for the low miles that I now do the difference in economy is hardly a factor, especially as in the UK diesel costs quite a bit more. Also diesel particulate filters (DPF) hate short trips and low revs and start to clog up which can be very expensive. The diesel sound is not really a factor - it's certainly not like a Peugeot 504 taxi if that's what you are worrying about! Most of the time when you are inside the car you would not know it was a diesel. Outside the car you can certainly tell but even then it's not bad. However overall I think I prefer the 'i' because it's more refined and quite honestly plenty fast enough that you are going to lose your licence if you boot it! I think if you can, try both and see which you prefer, taking into account the type of mileage you are likely to do to see if the 'd' will save you any money once you have factored in the extra purchase price and the cost of fuel. What Car? Online has an excellent calculator which will help you work out the costs - http://www.whatcar.com/car-news/petr...heaper-/248139 Last edited by Snapper Chris; 09-06-2011 at 02:25 PM.. Reason: Added a bit about diesel noise. |
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09-07-2011, 08:17 AM | #9 |
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In EU, depreciation on 535i will be much worse than on 535d..
To be honest, 535d will feel faster if this is what you're after. [Real life story: we have a manual 2009 330d and I took my girlfriend on a ride in 2009 4.6 Mustang, which technically should do 0-100 in 5 sec. She said it felt slow.. ] Last edited by michal12; 09-07-2011 at 08:26 AM.. |
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But the 535d has the Automatic gearbox whereas the 535i has the manual gearbox so when you add the automatic gearbox or sport gearbox on the 535i the price of the 535i in almost the same.
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But ignoring the price for a moment I sense you lean towards the 535d anyway, which is fine and it's an excellent choice for many people. |
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the sound and the refinement of the patrol or the power feeling ? it's a dilemma so hard |
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I think maybe if you are doing a lot of kilometres then possibly the 535d is the way to go. If you are not I think maybe the 535i wins it mainly because of the issue with the DPF (Diesel Particulate Filters) , etc. You might find this article of interest and of some help too - http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/faq/diesel-vs-petrol/ I hope that helps a little in helping you decide and good luck. Chris |
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09-09-2011, 03:31 PM | #16 | |
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in fact the numbers of km is not a factor which influence me. Even I do just 13000km per year (maybe a bit less) and you say me that the 535d gives me more sensation than 535i,then i take the 535d. And even if i do more than 30000km per year and you say me that 535i gives me more sensation than 535d,then i take the 535i. Honestly, i do between 12000km and 14000km per year with my car, i use it only in Week end and when i go to hollyday (i go generally to Spain, Itally, Netherland and Germany) the other time i take my wife's car. |
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535d Pros - torque; can go further between fill ups of fuel Cons - slightly agricultural sound (but still very refined for a diesel); 535i Pros - refinement, smoothness at high revs Cons - less torque than 535d |
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Problem with diesel engines is their sound. Though looking at how diesel engines are progressing might be a fair price to pay for less consumption, besides from what i was told engine sound is not heard that much from the inside of the car and almost not at all at low revs.
I was actually between a 520i and a 520d and picked the 520d because of less consumption which again is less when comparing 535i with 535d. On the other side is the torque of a diesel engine. But mainly when picking from these 2 models i would say the 535d purely because of much less consumption and more torque. |
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I have driven the 535i and a 530D Xdrive and I was most impressed with the 530D.
Both where automatic. I would say a manual 535i is more of a drivers car than an automatic 535D. I am also considering both since the 535i is less money than a 530xD. I am quite sure that if you go for a quicker trip the Diesel will be much more economic that the petrol, a Turbo petrol can probably consume huge amounts of fuel when driven hard, whereas the diesel will still not be over 1L/10km. A search in Spritmonitor.de reveals a 20% increase in fuel consumption on the 535i over the 535d: http://www.spritmonitor.de/en/overvi...35&powerunit=2 |
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If you can afford a 535i then why are you sweating about fuel economy. The petrol engine is faster, sounds better and is less money. Petrol is also less expensive than diesel today. I owned a Mercedes E320 Blue Tec and while the fuel economy was great, I ended up feeling I had compromised excitement for practicality. Boring!
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