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01-12-2015, 01:35 PM | #1 |
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F10 HID/LED kit question?
Hi I'm new to the forum so please go easy on me
I've seen alot of HID kits on eBay with photos for F10s the sellers say they know they work and have special looms to counteract any coding on the dash or nasties which I've read about with HIDs. I'm thinking of purchasing these as I just bought some Phillips White Vision bulbs and the results are poor there still yellow ugly and no good for night driving.... one problem no garage will even attempt to fit a HID kit to this car anybody who will do in the West Midlands/Gloucestershire/Bristol area? Its a pain in the a** accessing the bulbs through the wheel arch and its no good for properly mounting the HID ballasts and more importantly resistors (they get hot!!) so I need a proper job done? I'm looking for this and some coding in the above areas anyone who can help I will make it worth your while. |
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Scrap the idea, and buy yourself the proper Xenon headlight units. HID kits just open up trouble on a car like the F10.
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01-13-2015, 07:05 AM | #3 |
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Fitted them on my car.
My car came with jet washers. Its pain in the bum to install. My bumper was off as I had M5 body kit getting installed so I installed it then. Find somebody who can install it for you. I know that if bumper was on, I would have struggled. They came with error canceller resistors and no errors on dahsboard. I tried to install them without these resistors and with coding but it did not work. Since the car was in the garage so I had no time to play with coding so installed those resistors. I must say that its massive improvement over yellow ugly light however it is no where near original bmw xenons. If you go for one then 5000k is the colour which is closer to oem colour.
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I would get the BMW official but I can't justify paying £1000-£2000 for that there has to be a way. Just struggling to find who, I must admit I had a VW passat with OEM xenons its was 2013 plate and I fitted 6k bulbs and the output was poor, so I bought OSRAM 6k bulbs £89!!!! and the output was amazing better than the stock 4.3k I think it varies the cheaper the bulb the worse the output, but on a HID kit we don't have much choice its a case of you get what your given because D1S bulbs won't fit no doubt about it. |
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I have posted information here:
http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1069560 All the progress on my car: http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1071025
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anybody think fitting this kit will work ?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/141441234649 Its a 3 x CREE chip powered H7 bulb with massive turbo fans and heat sinks on the back of it, it comes with a 14 day return policy, and one year warranty. I contacted the seller directly told him about my car etc and the halogen bulbs it takes H7 55W and he said this will work no errors. His kit is 30w ? its just going to draw current however like a normal halogen bulb not like a HID kit (yay no flickering or relays) but my concern is that it will just think a bulb is blown all the time ???? anybody any ideas. I've been reading up and H7 bulbs account for 40% of the UK market and you can only buy them in 55w but unless its high beam they run at 35w (hooray then the LED kit would only be 5w off) but here is my other dilemma I think that there is a small chance the dipped runs at 55w as its through a projector lens I maybe wrong and this would indicate why they run halogens through projector lens' because they can get more power out of the halo bulbs but I'm not sure as you can only buy H7s in 55w, I know the high beam will run at 55w and go through a reflector lens. confusing right??? Im thinking about getting the kit but I don't want to fit it as its a pain in the a** accessing the bulbs through the wheel arch so ill get the pros to do it for ££ but I don't wanna waste money if they don't work lol!!! Any ideas?? By the way just thought I would mention after heavy research into this bulb technology the CREE bulbs are gonna take over the HID market by the looks of it the kits are really stepping up and this one is only 200-300 lumens of the output of a HID kit and get this the colour because its LED is pure 6K white. Compare that to the output of a HID kit at 6K and its out doing it by nearly 600 lumens. Its also smaller, less complicated and will last longer than a HID kit if not the whole life of the car. |
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Its excellent idea however following flaws; 1- There is physical difference b/w halo rings of xenon cars and non-xenon. So simply by increasing voltage going to it (via xenon coding), it is not going to make massive difference. 2- If xenon headlights have bi-xenon, then your high beam H7 will have different PMW, and that may not work properly. Again, it require some work. If I get time in the future, I may experiment. But I have no high hopes considering point 1. Quote:
At least that will resolve your headlight issue. But it may not be as bright as HID / xenons. Edited: Here is some feedback on these LEDs H7 http://www.monsterlights.com.au/mons...ht_testing.htm" rel="" target="_blank">http://<a href="http://www.monsterli...esting.htm</a> http://www.alfaowner.com/Forum/alfa-...eadlights.html" rel="" target="_blank">http://<a href="http://www.alfaowner...ights.html</a> http://www.arrse.co.uk/community/thr...-bulbs.189200/" rel="" target="_blank">http://<a href="http://www.arrse.co....bs.189200/</a> So, answers is 'NO'! Edit version 2: Low beam is very poor! http://<div class="youtube-playerCon.../iframe></div>
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01-15-2015, 01:06 PM | #8 | |
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Take a look at this CREE LED looks excellent lighting performance I've been reason that it's output is nearly 400lumens more than a HID bulb in the equiv temp colour 6k which is good. If the performance is like he photo and it doesn't code it will be great!!! http://i00.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v0/1...-H11-H4-H7.jpg |
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01-16-2015, 04:41 AM | #9 |
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Few photos of standard headlights.
When I checked the coding for DRL, they were on max brightness. Hope that helps. PS: These are not adjusted for brightness or anything and taken with iphone.
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Im gonna have to sort something out for the headlights Xenon or LED is coming to mine. Can't be doing with the halos I've got Phillips White Vision bulbs they are bright but they're no way near the 5000k they quote on the box. I think I'm gonna purchase the CREE next week will post the updated progress. As for the coronas ill have the DRL coded, I'm mainly going for the DVD in motion, sports screens and any other cool stuff I can get done. Please anyone with a Halo and headlight mods please I need your input!! I parked next to a F11 today and even the rear lights are different NBT is so much better than CIC, I can't even read emails or do f*** all with CIC I would be pissed if I had paid £2k for this option and all it is is some USB slots and a big screen with nav!! |
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I've attached photos of my current Halogens, they actually look 10x whiter than they are in reality on the photos, I've also attached a photo of my LEDs when I press the unlock button on my remote in the dark, the LEDs are so bright. I'm so confused I might sell the car in the summer get an F11 with NBT & Xenons. In the meantime Ill struggle to find a solution !!
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just too add I've ordered the LED kit but I'm not sure it will fit and don't want to pay somebody to find out it won't. Because I changed the halo bulbs to the philips and I was sure they need a retaining clip as the bulb plugs into what holds it in place. Confused.com?
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no its a mod in progress trying to change the dipped beam to CREE led, I had a mate I know take the headlight out today we both checked it out we measured the current going to the LED when we blipped the key and the angel eyes came on its 10w, the access to this LED is hard but you can strip the headlight its gotta be a weekend job but I'm gonna get the dipped beam done, all the LED is is a chip to make it harder to remove, 2 wires soldered onto it +/- obviously.... its actually an easy job the pain comes when you try to resolder the wires inside the headlight onto the chip so I'm exploring this with a headlight workshop in Birmingham. The LEDs are dirt cheap and speaking to somebody at Valeo on Friday they said the LEDs used on the xenons are CREE hence the heat sinks CREE leds get mega hot, the ones on the halo are yep you guessed it normal LEDs worth no more than £1, BMW cheaps out there as the CREE ones are £2.83 per chip. First is dipped beam then comes the headlight mod. Funny thing is also is that the CREE cheap is also 10w according to Valeo... so its just a chip change (which sounds simpler than it is) Retrofitting heat sinks should not be a problem as under the LED is just an empty space where the heat sink should be.
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CREE led chip link : http://www.lightinthebox.com/high-po...ncQaAtxU8P8HAQ |
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All 4 series owners with factory LED headlights say they're no brighter than xenon's, and they're LED costing hundreds of pounds, and fitted into specially designed housings/reflectors! |
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