[raleedy]

Originally Posted by M-Power111

not to offend anyone but alot of yuppies drive these and know nothing about cars and the beauty of BMW as the whole time their in the car their either on the bluetooth or day dreaming about work.

not to offend anyone? what the heck is that supposed to mean? you can't just insult legions of people and neutralize it with four moronic words.

[Fugly M3]

Originally Posted by bavarian19

I like everything about the engine, but the 2.1k price hike is a bit ridiculous.

I can't help but think that BMW is starting to push the boundary of pricing themselves out of a market.

I remember the day when a fully loaded non-M 3 series coupe wask 45k. Now it is 70k.

I think this is the most valid point. Some will say that the you don't need all the pricey options, but for the most part, many competitors come standard with many of those optional features. BMW just gets to charge more for them because they can. When the day comes that they cant, we will see so many more things as standard-- think rough economy that caused 2011 models to have free leather in the value package

[LunarRide61]

Interestingly, the invoice (per bmwconfig) on the 2012 528i that I ordered was $350 less than the 2011 528i with comparable configuration.

[paul386]

Originally Posted by LunarRide61

Interestingly, the invoice (per bmwconfig) on the 2012 528i that I ordered was $350 less than the 2011 528i with comparable configuration.

So maybe the article is blowing hot air?

[raleedy]

There have been some equipment changes that affect the as-equipped price in many cases. The article (not too surprisingly) ignores that.

[LunarRide61]

I guess I should clarify. On BMWConfig the base 2012 invoice is $42,695 while the base 2011 is $41,445. So the base 2012 is $1,250 more. Its when I add the options I wanted that the 2011 comes out $350 more than the similarly equipped 2012.

Also remember that BMW took some of the 2011 528i options and made them standard on the 2012 528i - Xenon/Adaptive headlights, Ambiance lighting, auto dimming mirrors, USB/iPod adapter. So this probably accounts for some of the base price increase.

[skat3sz]

I drove a 2010 528i and it was slow as shit but then again it was also a middle aged women's car who really doesn't care or need engine power

[Saintor]

The 0-60mph 0.4s "advantage" is soooo misleading.

The 5-60mph - more real world - will be the same as the N52 528i, around 7s.

I drove the N20 and *hated it*. It doesn't sound like a BMW should.

For all is given up, one mpg (city) is a price too big.

[paul386]

Originally Posted by Saintor

The 0-60mph 0.4s "advantage" is soooo misleading.

The 5-60mph - more real world - will be the same as the N52 528i, around 7s.

I drove the N20 and *hated it*. It doesn't sound like a BMW should.

For all is given up, one mpg (city) is a price too big.

Forgive me, but wouldn't a 4 cylinder turbo fair worse than a NA inline 6 at 0-5?

[raleedy]

Originally Posted by paul386

Forgive me, but wouldn't a 4 cylinder turbo fair worse than a NA inline 6 at 0-5?

The turbo four will FARE fairly well off the line, because of the torque curve, which provides much more at low RPM than the NA engine does. On the other hand, there's no way that 5-60, properly tested, would be slower than 0-60.