[AT LAW]

Originally Posted by Grover432

I have a 535 X Drive. The only thing holding me back from an M5 is the lack of AWD. As soon as the G30 M5 arrives with AWD, I'll make the switch.For those in now snow climates, I can't see any reason not to make the switch unless the cost and poorer fuel economy is a concern.

Agreed. I would still make the switch to an M5, despite living in Nebraska, if the price was right.
It would just mean having to own another vehicle for inclement weather.

However, I am certainly looking forward to an AWD M5.

[lsturbointeg]

Originally Posted by AT LAW

Agreed. I would still make the switch to an M5, despite living in Nebraska, if the price was right.
It would just mean having to own another vehicle for inclement weather.

However, I am certainly looking forward to an AWD M5.

I think the only thing is I like to drift. Having AWD would prevent that. Hitting a corner and kicking the back end sideways is an adrenaline rush.

[Brentis]

As someone who owned a $110k e60 m5. There are more cons than what others list. Sure my gas mileage was a dreadful 11.5 mpg avg. but what was bad about that was 170 miles to the tank! I hated the car for that. Filled up every 4 days - what a drag.

Next was having to keep the car isolated from others in parking lots . Having such a car was kind of stressful. Paint, interior, valets, parking, etc.

Then lastly, was the car wasn't any fun unless going 70+ mph. It was an absolute boat less than 30 mph around turns,etc. the v10 weighed something like 400 lbs more than the v8.

Just bought a 535 f10 after loving an e90 335i and wondering why I was thinking.

/randomness

[lsturbointeg]

Originally Posted by Brentis

As someone who owned a $110k e60 m5. There are more cons than what others list. Sure my gas mileage was a dreadful 11.5 mpg avg. but what was bad about that was 170 miles to the tank! I hated the car for that. Filled up every 4 days - what a drag.

Next was having to khe car isolated from others in parking lots . Having such a car was kind of stressful. Paint, interior, valets, parking, etc.

Then lastly, was the car wasn't any fun unless going 70+ mph. It was an absolute boat less than 30 mph around turns,etc. the v10 weighed something like 400 lbs more than the v8.

Just bought a 535 f10 after loving an e90 335i and wondering why I was thinking.

/randomness

Good points! Something to consider and think about!

[jeveryday]

Originally Posted by remmib

I assume it's pretty easy.

Pros - More power and speed.

Cons - More costly to drive and service/maitain.

[PEHM5]

As a F10 M5 owner, it's true, after driving the beast, you will have a smile on your face. The M5 is a joy to drive. I'm getting18 mpg and with a 21 gallon fuel tank, you're able to enjoy driving long distances. Get the M5!!!

[lsturbointeg]

Originally Posted by PEHM5

As a F10 M5 owner, it's true, after driving the beast, you will have a smile on your face. The M5 is a joy to drive. I'm getting18 mpg and with a 21 gallon fuel tank, you're able to enjoy driving long distances. Get the M5!!!

Awesome! Good to hear!

[M5Beast_NYC]

Originally Posted by Brentis

As someone who owned a $110k e60 m5. There are more cons than what others list. Sure my gas mileage was a dreadful 11.5 mpg avg. but what was bad about that was 170 miles to the tank! I hated the car for that. Filled up every 4 days - what a drag.

Next was having to keep the car isolated from others in parking lots . Having such a car was kind of stressful. Paint, interior, valets, parking, etc.

Then lastly, was the car wasn't any fun unless going 70+ mph. It was an absolute boat less than 30 mph around turns,etc. the v10 weighed something like 400 lbs more than the v8.

Just bought a 535 f10 after loving an e90 335i and wondering why I was thinking.

/randomness

Have you driven the F10 M5 to compare the previous gen M5? I would think the power delivery has changed significantly between the biturbo v8 vs the v10 engine. Im sure the transmission is also improved.

[493263]

The G30 top engine 5 series(maybe still call it 550?) will probably be slightly faster, slightly more aggressive looks, slightly better interior, and lots more tech than the current F10. I don't know if going for M5 at this point will make you happy next year. That's a bet you have to make.

Besides that, you are looking at paying a lot more for more speed. Only you can decide if that's worth it or not.

If you want to know what the G30 will look like, just look at the new 7 series they just introduced. It will be the same car but a foot shorter, less leg room in the back and no fancy rear seat options.

[chrisny]

I love the M5, but I can't imagine where you have to live to enjoy that level of power. My 550 already has way more than I can use for 90% of my driving (hell, so did my 335 before it), can't even imagine how big a tease that M5 must be unless you live in a remote area of one sort or another. It sure as hell is sexy though

[M5Beast_NYC]

Originally Posted by chrisny

I love the M5, but I can't imagine where you have to live to enjoy that level of power. My 550 already has way more than I can use for 90% of my driving (hell, so did my 335 before it), can't even imagine how big a tease that M5 must be unless you live in a remote area of one sort or another. It sure as hell is sexy though

chris, where in NY are you? I daily drive from long island to stamford, ct during morning and afternoon rush. Traffic is decent for the most part but not empty by any means. do you think its overkill for an m5?

[chrisny]

Originally Posted by Carbonm3ny

chris, where in NY are you? I daily drive from long island to stamford, ct during morning and afternoon rush. Traffic is decent for the most part but not empty by any means. do you think its overkill for an m5?

I'm in Westchester and, right now, driving mostly locally… I did work in Jersey for a while when I had my 335. But even on the Turnpike and parkways in NY, while I got to use its performance at least some of the time, it's still mostly just straight aways with cops around.. And don't get me wrong, I say this, yet after being frustrated I couldn't have more fun in my S5, I got a 335. Then after being frustrated I couldn't have more fun in my 335, I got a 550

So, technically, and where my comment came from, an M5 is probably overkill for any daily drive outside of farm country or something, given the simple fact that we have no autobahn like speed limits and there are too many other cars around us. But I won't pretend that would stop me from getting one. Like I said, my 550 is already way overpowered for 90% of my driving.. but I still bought it

I think if I were to again spend an hour or more a day commuting each way like you do, it becomes that much more worthwhile. Just have to be careful, having some open space on these highways can be tempting. But it's also deceiving.. with all the traffic, those pockets can close fast and you remember you're not alone in the desert filming a movie on a closed set or something lol.

Are you doing that commute in your M3? If that doesn't feel like overkill for you, I would assume the M5 wouldn't either..

[DFWRaider]

Originally Posted by lsturbointeg

So the wife gave me an early Father's Day gift and said if I wanted to trade the 535i for an M5. Here I had many plans for my 535i and I'm wondering if moving up to an M5 is worth it meaning maintenance, gas and such? She brought up a point and said why mod the 535i when you can mod a M5 instead? Which now I'm stuck in a predicament because I had plans on going KWV2... Mtech rear bumper...diffuser and Armytrix Exhaust on the 535i. What are your guy's pros and cons? Cost more for upgrades?

I would go for the M5. You can mod a 535 all you want and it will never be an M5 (that's not a knock on the 535 which is an awesome car).

I need your wife to talk to my wife!

[lsturbointeg]

Originally Posted by DFWRaider

I would go for the M5. You can mod a 535 all you want and it will never be an M5 (that's not a knock on the 535 which is an awesome car).

I need your wife to talk to my wife!

LOL!

[M5Beast_NYC]

Originally Posted by lsturbointeg

LOL!

So did you end up getting an M5?

[lsturbointeg]

Originally Posted by Carbonm3ny

So did you end up getting an M5?

No...I wanted to but decided to just work with what I have for now. But it was great to get everyones opinions. Mpg is awesome right now and I feel my 535 has adequate power and probably with a flash tune I'll be more than satisfied. I'm having fun right now with my car So I had to think about do I really need a M5 or do I want a M5?

[DFWRaider]

Originally Posted by lsturbointeg

No...I wanted to but decided to just work with what I have for now. But it was great to get everyones opinions. Mpg is awesome right now and I feel my 535 has adequate power and probably with a flash tune I'll be more than satisfied. I'm having fun right now with my car So I had to think about do I really need a M5 or do I want a M5?

I had a 2008 535 with the twin turbo inline 6, and did the Dinan Stage 2 flash (not sure what it is now, but then it increased the bhp to about 425 and the torque to 400). LOVED IT. It turned that car into a beast.

I know some folks aren't real crazy about Dinan because they tend to be pricey, but I did the mod with my dealership because they were comfortable in supporting the warranty on it. I never had any issues or finger pointing with it.

I would highly recommend it if you want to bulk up the power. The 535 has good power as it is, but this flash made it feel like a race car.

My 535 was a 6 speed MT, so I can't speak to how it affects the shifting on an AT vehicle.

[lsturbointeg]

Originally Posted by DFWRaider

I had a 2008 535 with the twin turbo inline 6, and did the Dinan Stage 2 flash (not at it is now, but then it increased the bhp to about 425 and the torque to 400). LOVED IT. It turned that car into a beast.

I know some folks aren't real crazy about Dinan because they tend to be pricey, but I did the mod with my dealership because they were comfortable in supporting the warranty on it. I never had any issues or finger pointing with it.

I would highly recommend it if you want to bulk up the power. The 535 has good power as it is, but this flash made it feel like a race car.

My 535 was a 6 speed MT, so I can't speak to how it affects the shifting on an AT vehicle.

that's something I never thought of So I know who and what Dinan is but never thought about going with them until u mentioned the warranty. I'll check into their pricing...I know they're pricey and that's probably why I never bothered especially when I can just go with a simple piggyback like BMS, AFE, JB, Ect...

[M5Beast_NYC]

I have the JB4 sitting in my living room and waiting to get installed too. Partly worried about installing it cuz of potential warranty issue. I might just give it a shot this weekend and hope for the best...

[lsturbointeg]

Originally Posted by Carbonm3ny

I have the JB4 sitting in my living room and waiting to get installed too. Partly worried about installing it cuz of potential warranty issue. I might just give it a shot this weekend and hope for the best...

Awesome... let me know how it goes

[DFWRaider]

Originally Posted by lsturbointeg

that's something I never thought of So I know who and what Dinan is but never thought about going with them until u mentioned the warranty. I'll check into their pricing...I know they're pricey and that's probably why I never bothered especially when I can just go with a simple piggyback like BMS, AFE, JB, Ect...

It seems like the flash was about $1700 when I did it then. My dealership is who actually performed the upgrade.

IMO I think it's more than just a piggyback because it blends in with the software that controls the engine characteristics. It wasn't really a linear increase in RPMs and a good deal of the acceleration came pretty quickly making the car feel like a rocket.

My concern with chipping the car using a piggyback is that the dealership can blame almost anything on the chip. Even if you take it out when you take the car in for service, it seems like they have ways to tell it's been there (I'm far from an expert on this though).

Dinan was a safe, supported way to do it and it made the car incredibly fun to drive. It was really night and day performance wise, and at the time made the 535 outperform the 550.

[lsturbointeg]

Originally Posted by DFWRaider

It seems like the flash was about $1700 when I did it then. My dealership is who actually performed the upgrade.

IMO I think it's more than just a piggyback because it blends in with the software that controls the engine characteristics. It wasn't really a linear increase in RPMs and a good deal of the acceleration came pretty quickly making the car feel like a rocket.

My concern with chipping the car using a piggyback is that the dealership can blame almost anything on the chip. Even if you take it out when you take the car in for service, it seems like they have ways to tell it's been there (I'm far from an expert on this though).

Dinan was a safe, supported way to do it and it made the car incredibly fun to drive. It was really night and day performance wise, and at the time made the 535 outperform the 550.

Did a search on Dinan and from what other's posted who have the tune was warned that if u have any other mods done not Dinan made...they can void ur warranty because they will blame that product because it's not a Dinan product...ie Eisemann exhaust, dp's, cp's ect...In case of engine failure or whatever components fail.