[delvek]

For reasons I wont go into, I am bowing out of this thread and this whole issue.

My last comment is ...

Roadcrown as a reason is the dealer saying . At this point it is my belief that should you own a F10 that had a build week from week 1 until mid summer then any further conversation on fixing this issue would be better spent doing more creative things like on each other or maybe standing in front of the Welt with a pose like this or meeting the engineers at the local biergarten for round of this so you can pray to the porcelain goddess for the answer, lastly if none of that works we can dig up Einstein and open his head and just maybe he left the answer for us in their.

Peace out on the pull.

[Dulles530]

So just back from service visit #2 and the infamous grinding noise seems to be fixed - they "dampened the ARS valves" and did a complete reprogramming.

However the right pulling is still there. If I settle the car into a straight line, it starts to pull after 2-3secs. It still seems abnormal, and I sense that I am still inputting left steering t keep it on a straight line.

I'm in discussions with BMW NA about this and we're one service visit away from Lemon law territory. Even more amazing is what the phone rep told me about my pulling/problem. "You know the new 5 series has new steering technology which tracks with the direction of the road. It takes some getting used to". Huh? Tracks with the road.. is that why the road goes straight and the steering tries to send me off the road? Amazing..

[cagatacos]

Came back from dealer. Had a direction aligment andt the front right wheel wasn´t in side of the tolerance parameters. Much better now but still not perffect. The steering wheel position was corrected. Now it seems to go straight (some pulling after 5 seconds in some roads). Still have the zig zag wondering with wind. SO WHAT´S NEXT?
Is there a sollution
By the way the news f11 an f10 from 2011 are suufering from this problem?
I don´t see any new posts about that.

[JOHNBMWM5]

Originally Posted by cagatacos

Came back from dealer. Had a direction aligment andt the front right wheel wasn´t in side of the tolerance parameters. Much better now but still not perffect. The steering wheel position was corrected. Now it seems to go straight (some pulling after 5 seconds in some roads). Still have the zig zag wondering with wind. SO WHAT´S NEXT?
Is there a sollution
By the way the news f11 an f10 from 2011 are suufering from this problem?
I don´t see any new posts about that.

Mine is a 2011, NO Problems at all.

[lawbuz]

I have already had 3 service appts to address the steering to the right issue and it has not been remedied. The service consisted of adjusting tiring pressure, manipulating the struts and thirdly a steering programming update. This seems to be the usual course of remedies.

Question -- Has anyone seen service depts employ other tools to address this?

Question -- Has anyone begun proceedings under thier state's lemon law provisions and how successful have things been?

Thank you in advance.

[vaiska]

Originally Posted by lawbuz

I have already had 3 service appts to address the steering to the right issue and it has not been remedied. The service consisted of adjusting tiring pressure, manipulating the struts and thirdly a steering programming update. This seems to be the usual course of remedies.

Question -- Has anyone seen service depts employ other tools to address this?

Question -- Has anyone begun proceedings under thier state's lemon law provisions and how successful have things been?

Thank you in advance.

Steering to the right issue solved. I had a serious zig zag, pulling to the right and requiring constant input to keep the car straigt problem.

Solution: I got my car from local dealer yesterday and they told that suspension was adjusted. There is some kind of pre tension which was adjusted as tight as possible. Now it feels like sport mode suspension. Not so comfortable as earlier but I can live with it and now it feels like it should

The electric steering is not perfect yet but the main problem was suspension. It was too limb.

[wannes]

They allready did the tension setting on mine ....and no change become

Delivery end oct. 2010

[GGPlena]

Originally Posted by delvek

For reasons I wont go into, I am bowing out of this thread and this whole issue.

At this point it is my belief that should you own a F10 that had a build week from week 1 until mid summer then any further conversation on fixing this issue would be better spent doing more creative things like on each other

Shyt! You are actually saying that there is an unfixable engineering fault on early F10s...

Oh my...

[Evil335i]

Man...i took my car to the dealer last week & i told them that my steering wheel was not straight and was tilted to the right a little bit. I told them i wanted only a alginment only. Then my service guy told me they performed the whole pulling to the right issue with my car & did all the software upgrades. NOW my car is zig-zaging when im driving..its like the steering wheel is really sensitive. does anyone here have this problem? Im planning on bring my car back & tell them to restore it back to how it was & just fix the steering wheel problem.

[tetiker]

Hi everybody,
After all fixes, now my car pulls to the right or left according to the road conditions. But a little time it goes stright. It starts pulling after 5-6 secods and changing line after 30 seconds.

all the people that say their car has pulling to the right issue,is your car ever pulls to the left? or in all conditions it pulls to the right?


P.S: I am writing this message at BMW service

[Touring]

Originally Posted by tetiker

and changing line after 30 seconds.

Cant even sleep for half a minute anymore without the car going all over the place!

[F11-Diesel]

Originally Posted by Touring

Cant even sleep for half a minute anymore without the car going all over the place!

Well it's all about efficientdynamics.
You wanted it, you got it.

[stevelup]

Mine is currently pulling in both directions. It is almost impossible to drive in a straight line, but it neither pulls left or right. Basically, it just carries on going in the direction of the last steering input.

So if I nudge the wheel slightly to the right, it carries on going to the right. If I nudge slightly to the left, it carries on going left. It is impossible to let go of the wheel for even two or three seconds.

It is going in on Friday to have KDS Wheel Alignment. I'll report back once it's done...

[Touring]

First they where pulling to the right, now left and right. Whats next? Suddenly goes into reverse??

Im just happy im still alive :-)

[bimmerfrei]

Originally Posted by Touring

First they where pulling to the right, now left and right. Whats next? Suddenly goes into reverse??

Im just happy im still alive :-)

Yeah, go ahead and make fun of all of us with cars that don't perform like a true BMW should. As I've posted before, my car also has a tendency to pull in both directions. But if you, Touring, are blessed with a car that doesn't have any faults, I think you should s--- t-- f--- up and be happy.

[grimlock]

Originally Posted by stevelup

Mine is currently pulling in both directions. It is almost impossible to drive in a straight line, but it neither pulls left or right. Basically, it just carries on going in the direction of the last steering input.

i. If it is "pulling in both directions", its technically not pulling.
ii. If it is "impossible to drive in a straight line", how did you get home?
iii. "but it pulls neither left or right", umm
iv. "Basically, it just carries on going in the direction of the last steering input." -ah ha! so it works..

Seriously, you mean the centering force is not enough?

[grimlock]

Originally Posted by bimmerfrei

Yeah, go ahead and make fun of all of us with cars that don't perform like a true BMW should. As I've posted before, my car also has a tendency to pull in both directions. But if you, Touring, are blessed with a car that doesn't have any faults, I think you should s--- t-- f--- up and be happy.

In light of this, my last post was in poor taste, I apologize.

In the interest of preventing a dangerous escalation of tensions on the Scandinavian peninsula, I propose a tri-party summit, if participants are willing to fly over to asia.

[bimmerfrei]

OK, let's make tea, not war!

[blackhawk_pilot2000]

Originally Posted by stevelup

Mine is currently pulling in both directions. It is almost impossible to drive in a straight line, but it neither pulls left or right. Basically, it just carries on going in the direction of the last steering input.

So if I nudge the wheel slightly to the right, it carries on going to the right. If I nudge slightly to the left, it carries on going left. It is impossible to let go of the wheel for even two or three seconds.

It is going in on Friday to have KDS Wheel Alignment. I'll report back once it's done...

+1
I hear you loud and clear. Mine behaves the same way after all the fixes. It just not right, then again I think it's just a design flaw, those that report no issue are either pretty lucky or pretty ignorant as to what on center feel is all about.

[Touring]

Originally Posted by bimmerfrei

Yeah, go ahead and make fun of all of us with cars that don't perform like a true BMW should. As I've posted before, my car also has a tendency to pull in both directions. But if you, Touring, are blessed with a car that doesn't have any faults, I think you should s--- t-- f--- up and be happy.

Ok sir.

[grimlock]

Originally Posted by bimmerfrei

OK, let's make tea, not war!

Hong Kong Tea Party, est. 'today':

Membership requirements: any of the following
1. BMW F10 that works
2. BMW F10 that does not work as it should
3. BMW F10 totally sucks s***
4. actually you don't have to own the car, you just have to like a.complaining b.counter-complaining c.making fun of the complainers

rules for complaining:
i. right to unlimited complaining
ii. anti-complainers/jokers right to one comment per three complaints
iii. profanities allowed, preferably censored (ie.'f*** y** stupid a**h*le')
iv. no violence, reporting to authorities, or 'taking it off board'

[bimmerfrei]

Sign me up and hand me a Singapore Sling!