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      11-16-2013, 01:56 AM   #1
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Question frozen paint question

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After reading some information on this board and over internet I'm kinda frustrated.
Atm I am ordering my new 550i and willing to take W44 Frozen Dark Blue met. paintwork. I do really adore this visual effect of this paint.
The question is about care and treatment of this paint. Is there any official manual by BMW how to take care of this paint (I don't mean video by BMW that can be easily found on youtube). Probably somebody here has a car with frozen paint and can say something or share some real-life experience or give some advice/tips on it. Because here (in mother russia lol) official BMW dealers/Customer Support doesn't give a **** about frozen paintworks telling me that they will try to contact some specialists but it ends up with nothing.
To say honestly I understand that it makes more sense to order any regular color but this frozen paint just stuck in my head and I just want it
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      11-16-2013, 07:16 AM   #2
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Here is a thread
http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=677929
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      11-16-2013, 08:57 AM   #3
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Got that. Basicly I've read that thread before cuz it's one of top 5 positions displayed by google when you are trying to search something like "Frozen paintwork BMW Care" or anything like this.
I clearly understand that with our climate and conditions gonna be an ache. Also It's clear that any little scratch on paint leads to repainting of a whole part.
I'm more interested to hear more about practical part of it. For example if a little dent appear on paint it will be too visible or not ? On regular paint, for example, because of it's gloss and shine (if it's well pollished waxed and so on) different glitches\dents on paint isn't seen to clearly I will need to come very close to notice any damage on paint. What about frozen paint ?
And also I am thinking about wrapping few parts with armoring film. Therefore I am curious if you can remove it from frozen paint with no damage to it ? Is there any films that doesn't ruin that "satin" effect of this paintwork ?

It's clear that maintaining this paintwork will cost a lot comparing to regular paint. But I am not trying to save some $$$ buying a 200k$ car really. I wonder if it's atleast possible to maintain it cuz simply I don't want to buy a car that will look like crap after a few month of use.
I am sorry for such a stupid questions but it's really hard to find any "real life" info about this paint here.
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      11-16-2013, 10:28 AM   #4
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I don't think your question is stupid. You read so many different views it can be very frustrating if you don't have personal experience.

I've ordered the same colour (expecting delivery in January 14). I find the colour to be stunning. A guy in my neighbourhood has a frozen grey M5 and it always looks great.

There are always many opinions about colour. Even for great looking colours like one of the many shades of black there are many who are concerned with the high maintenance requirements to keep it looking good.

I don't think it will cost a lot to keep looking good. Let's give BMW some credit that they know what they're talking about when it comes to regular paint maintenance. Buying some OEM car care products isn't such a big deal.

I also think that, heaven forbid, if there are any 'touch up' issues required, the skills of the workshop that's doing the job is critical (personally, I'm comfortable with my BMW workshop) and it won't necessarily be expensive.

Just my USD 0.02, but I can't wait to receive the car.
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      11-16-2013, 11:04 AM   #5
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And again question is not about cost. Tbh I don't care about it because bmw is my obsession probably and I don't write down my expenses on car to count it. Bmw is not a cheap way to move you from A to B honestly.
The question is about ability to maintain perfect look despite of different situations that may happen with car (minor car crashes , minor damage on parking and so on).
Customer support and even main color specialists who work for
BMW group here can't say anything more reasonable than "We will try to figure it out and call you back later". Not mention they never called back ))
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      11-16-2013, 04:13 PM   #6
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Got that. Basicly I've read that thread before cuz it's one of top 5 positions displayed by google when you are trying to search something like "Frozen paintwork BMW Care" or anything like this.
I clearly understand that with our climate and conditions gonna be an ache. Also It's clear that any little scratch on paint leads to repainting of a whole part.
I'm more interested to hear more about practical part of it. For example if a little dent appear on paint it will be too visible or not ? On regular paint, for example, because of it's gloss and shine (if it's well pollished waxed and so on) different glitches\dents on paint isn't seen to clearly I will need to come very close to notice any damage on paint. What about frozen paint ?
And also I am thinking about wrapping few parts with armoring film. Therefore I am curious if you can remove it from frozen paint with no damage to it ? Is there any films that doesn't ruin that "satin" effect of this paintwork ?

It's clear that maintaining this paintwork will cost a lot comparing to regular paint. But I am not trying to save some $$$ buying a 200k$ car really. I wonder if it's atleast possible to maintain it cuz simply I don't want to buy a car that will look like crap after a few month of use.
I am sorry for such a stupid questions but it's really hard to find any "real life" info about this paint here.
Opticoat or cQuartz might work. I am not sure if they add any gloss, since they do not contain any light reflecting compounds. There is a lot of mixed information about them on matte finishes. I would maybe do a test spot on the inside of the door panel or something to find out.

Other options include Swissvax Opaque and other waxes particularly designed for matte paints.

The really OCD option would be to wrap the entire car in a matte or satin protection film.
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      11-16-2013, 05:31 PM   #7
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I heard about xpel stealth film that saves visual effect but still protects paintwork well. Probably we should try to build up a FAQ on frozen paintwork. There are tons of info on the web considering frozen paint but there is no info that consist of practical information and theory applied to to practice. Only theory
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