[TheRox]

Originally Posted by BigKutta

Yes, this thing feels like a boat in terms of size. I came from an e46, and the turning radius of this boat still baffles me. My Merc ML can turn on a shorter radius

probably b/c of 5's long wheelbase

that being said, the panamera and S are even worse

[TheRox]

Originally Posted by Oleg

yes Panamera is terrific , especially Turbo which is actually faster than 911 turbo
but BMW offers a better value if you are on a budget. If money is not an object Panamera is the way to go and never look back.

Turbo is overpriced.

The V8 is the sweet spot...and honestly, unless you plan on breaking the law a lot, the 6 cyl is quite swift.

[itf joegun]

Just my experience:

We switched from E91 330i (Touring) to F11 535i (also Touring). The 535i has M-Sport suspension, no Active Steering or Dynamic Dampers. With the 20" non-RFT the car corners absolutely well. It drives better then the 330i with M-Sport suspension and 19" which feels a little bit nervous.

Regarding power, the 330i was no match to the 535i. In Sport+ and manual gears (paddle shifting with sport auto) the 535i is way faster!

And best is, the F11 looks much better and is with the M-Suspension and 20" more comfortable than the E91 with M-Suspension and 19" rims.

So finally, in my opinion, switching from 3-series to 5-series is absolutely an improvement, especially if the F10 has the 35i or 50i engine.

[OnlyTruth]

Originally Posted by TheRox

Turbo is overpriced.

The V8 is the sweet spot...and honestly, unless you plan on breaking the law a lot, the 6 cyl is quite swift.

Agree V6 is fast enough too

[Needsdecaf]

Originally Posted by smithrh

Can I get a sporty 535 that has qualities like my 3? I can put up with the nav, as frustrating as it is - but a laggy, boat like experience is not for me.

Hopefully I've just experienced a loaner and everyone here will put my fears to rest - please?

F30 335.


End of story.

[ex-poster]

Thanks for the input, all - it's helpful!