[shanecarmaster1]

M3 V6, or I-6?!

[Kyosho]

I think most people that can afford to buy these cars could care less about the M heritage. All they see is a 550hp/500tq beast and theyll jump on it.

[Mii]

Agreed! Who cares about V10, V12 if BMW can produce faster, lighter and more efficient engine with newer and better technology. If it's to be 550+hp/500+tq electric drive M5, people would go for it too.

[Canexican]

It always cracks me up to see the cliche M obsessed cry foul over change. M cars are and always will be awesome machines. High strung I6's, V8's, and V10's certainly do sound awesome (more-so the V8's & V10's), but adding a pair of turbos will certainly not lessen the driving experience. You guys should be happy you will finally get to experience this magical phenomenon called, "torque." 135 and 335 owners understand this and procede to smoke the M guys with very little modifications. You'll finally be able to buy an M car and not have to worry about getting toasted by some guy that paid over ten-thousand less than you.

Think about it: you'll get a significantly more powerful motor with a ton-more useable powerband, plus legendary M chassis tuning at the expense of what... ~1500 less peak rpm? When your back gets pinned to the seat you'll wonder how you ever got by without that pair of snails. The fact is that turbo > n/a. Stop whining and begin rejoicing.

[Turbo Squid]

Lame.

I was really looking forward the ridiculousness of a V10TT.

I'm hoping their sources are just saying that to get InsideLine off their back, HAHA.

V10TT FTW! or new N.A V10 with 600 hp FTW!

[ZED4Mjjl]

Originally Posted by Canexican

It always cracks me up to see the cliche M obsessed cry foul over change. M cars are and always will be awesome machines. High strung I6's, V8's, and V10's certainly do sound awesome (more-so the V8's & V10's), but adding a pair of turbos will certainly not lessen the driving experience. You guys should be happy you will finally get to experience this magical phenomenon called, "torque." 135 and 335 owners understand this and procede to smoke the M guys with very little modifications. You'll finally be able to buy an M car and not have to worry about getting toasted by some guy that paid over ten-thousand less than you.

Think about it: you'll get a significantly more powerful motor with a ton-more useable powerband, plus legendary M chassis tuning at the expense of what... ~1500 less peak rpm? When your back gets pinned to the seat you'll wonder how you ever got by without that pair of snails. The fact is that turbo > n/a. Stop whining and begin rejoicing.

old Japanese saying applies; "talk does not cook rice"

[e46e92love]

Originally Posted by ArmyBimmerDude

LOL your post if full of fail.

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/25/a...win-turbod-v8/

Tell us again about how AMG is becoming //M and vise versa?

When are people going to realize that the days of gas guzzlers are coming to an end? At least the german companies are being proactive and developing new technology to stay ahead of the game.

I posted an opinion, never attacking any other poster or referring to anyone's else's opinion as fail, retarded, stupid, etc. I understand you are probably 19, so you don't know any better. But feel free in the future to express your opinion without hostility, or aggressiveness. Try asking me what I meant or disagreeing with it with some respect, not like a 19 year old punk.

Cheers,
e46e92

[ArmyBimmerDude]

Originally Posted by e46e92love

I posted an opinion, never attacking any other poster or referring to anyone's else's opinion as fail, retarded, stupid, etc. I understand you are probably 19, so you don't know any better. But feel free in the future to express your opinion without hostility, or aggressiveness. Try asking me what I meant or disagreeing with it with some respect, not like a 19 year old punk.

Cheers,
e46e92

Translation: I have no idea what i'm talking about and should stick to my 335. Got it.

I wasn't attacking you. I called you out and you posted your lame attempt at an insult to hide the fact that everything in your post was false. That you made yourself sound completely clueless. That you should stick to what you're good at, which is....*insert here*.

Sadly, if I was 19 years old, your post shows exactly how much you know compared to an average teenager.

I ask you this. Put me in my place. Tell us all why Audi is the new king and the roles of AMG and //M will be reversed.

Cheers,
ABD

[dhoggm3]

If //M can eliminate the lag of the 335 on this new V8 (and the write-ups say they've done it, with patented manifold technology) then I say bring it on! I'll still have the sweet NA M3 V8 to listen to when I need a symphony. My guess is the TT V8 won't sound bad, either...

[///power]

I have no problem with Turbos. It's when warranty is over what I'm concerned about.

Will there be a problem that costs 10K to fix like the famous Vanos problem in the E39 M5?

[bavarian19]

Good news!

[Mighty M]

Originally Posted by ZED4Mjjl

old Japanese saying applies; "talk does not cook rice"

"Man with hand in pocket feel cocky."

[dhoggm3]

Did some more research. Cancelled my reservation for the first F10 M5. Now on the prowl for a 6mt CPO M5. Half the price, I get it this year, and I can play dinosaur and actually heel and toe for myself. I'd hate for the skill I've developed over decades to rot while I flick paddles. Maybe I'll be ready when I get the CPO F10 M5...

[inmotion]

Slightly disappointed as I love the high-strung V10 in my E60. Will withold judgement until seeing and driving it myself

[serali]

goodbye V10!

why use the engine on one model for 7 years and let it go??

[xtose92]

yea, this is going to be a beast.. i too am sad that the M wont be NA anymore.. but this isn't exactly the worst thing that could happen.. i mean, those are serious numbers..that people pay upwards of 30k on top of the car they pay sticker for to get that kind of power.. and still fall short

[Minimization]

So I am hearing 578 PS...which is not much more than the current 555 PS in the X5/6 M. Makes me think BMW ///M did little to nothing for this engine for the M5. Maybe a simple change in intake and exhaust gave it 23 PS more? More importantly though this car will weigh 1,000 lb + less than an X6 M so expect 11 s range 1/4 mi times. Plus with 500 ft lb, maybe 22 mi/gal highway, and reduced manufacturing costs I think it will be a winner. I'll miss the NA V10 but progress is progress.

[e46e92love]

Originally Posted by ArmyBimmerDude

Translation: I have no idea what i'm talking about and should stick to my 335. Got it.

I wasn't attacking you. I called you out and you posted your lame attempt at an insult to hide the fact that everything in your post was false. That you made yourself sound completely clueless. That you should stick to what you're good at, which is....*insert here*.

Sadly, if I was 19 years old, your post shows exactly how much you know compared to an average teenager.

I ask you this. Put me in my place. Tell us all why Audi is the new king and the roles of AMG and //M will be reversed.

Cheers,
ABD

Translation: you are a punk. I see posts like this from you all the time.


Audi's RS line, as again with the RS5, builds high revving NA engines. AMG, although going FI, builds a one engine fits all philosophy. //M used to point out that making one engine for all cars is "flawed". So my point, for your ignorant as to understand, was that now //M is using a "one engine fits all approach".

I have stated time and time again, as bad as going FI is, what really bothers me is the one engine approach.

BTW, get a clue about your gas guzzling comments: Porsche is making FI engines that AVOID the GGT. So to tell me you need big sloppy FI engines to save the environment or cut down on gas consumption.

Cheers,
Go F**k yourself

[aCP]

Originally Posted by Advevo

Turbo power is the easy way bmw and you know it.

I can buy a turbo car on every corner of the street just like i can buy a casio watch on every corner on the street. It s nothing special.

///M cars should be like mechanical watches a piece of engineering No bmw rather go the easy way. Shame on you bmw ///M. And you won t get one penny from me for this kind engine/car.

About every jap car has turbo.

///M has lost it. ///M Motorsport is gone ///M Marketing is the new ///M

lol Audi has used turbo / supercharge for while and MB too. I think you are just like ppl whos young but having a grandpa brain.

[aCP]

Originally Posted by ArmyBimmerDude

Translation: I have no idea what i'm talking about and should stick to my 335. Got it.

I wasn't attacking you. I called you out and you posted your lame attempt at an insult to hide the fact that everything in your post was false. That you made yourself sound completely clueless. That you should stick to what you're good at, which is....*insert here*.

Sadly, if I was 19 years old, your post shows exactly how much you know compared to an average teenager.

I ask you this. Put me in my place. Tell us all why Audi is the new king and the roles of AMG and //M will be reversed.

Cheers,
ABD

[aCP]

Originally Posted by e46e92love

Translation: you are a punk. I see posts like this from you all the time.


Audi's RS line, as again with the RS5, builds high revving NA engines. AMG, although going FI, builds a one engine fits all philosophy. //M used to point out that making one engine for all cars is "flawed". So my point, for your ignorant as to understand, was that now //M is using a "one engine fits all approach".

I have stated time and time again, as bad as going FI is, what really bothers me is the one engine approach.

BTW, get a clue about your gas guzzling comments: Porsche is making FI engines that AVOID the GGT. So to tell me you need big sloppy FI engines to save the environment or cut down on gas consumption.

Cheers,
Go F**k yourself

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