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"All this is made possible by Dynamic Drive Control which, in conjunction with the optional Sport Automatic, Integral Active Steering and Dynamic Damper Control or, respectively, Adaptive Drive, comes as standard on the BMW 5 Series Sedan. Dynamic Drive Control masterminds the progressive action of the gas pedal, the response of the engine, the steering assistance map, the thresholds of DSC Dynamic Stability Control and, where fitted, also the dynamic gearshift of the automatic transmission and the control map on Dynamic Damper Control." And, here is where it gets rather confusing and possibly where the PR scriptwriter may have glossed over the difference between adaptive and non-adaptive dampers: "The driver is able to set the suspension configuration he prefers simply by pressing a button on the centre console, using a toggle switch to choose among the NORMAL, SPORT and SPORT+ modes. In conjunction with Dynamic Damper Control and, respectively, Adaptive Drive, there is also the COMFORT mode for a particularly smooth style of motoring." On the standard suspension, AFAIK, the dampers are mechanical and are not electronically controlled. As such, it should not be possible for the "Sport" mode on the Dynamic Driving Control to alter the damping characteristics or the suspension configuration, contrary to what is being implied in the press release . |
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I would like to have my f10 handle more like my e90, rather firm and minimal body roll. My e90 is not on m sport suspension which is ok for my wife and I I was hoping that dynamic drive would enable me to tighten the chassis in sport mode when I feel like it, but it appears this is not going to happen. I do not not wish my f10 drive like a comfortable Merc with less feedback. Comments on whether I should have VDC/dynamic damping? Roads in Singapore are generally smooth. But does VDC/dynamic damping tighten the chassis in sport mode (since dynamic drive alone in sport mode doesn't)? If so, it is an important factor for me to take the VDC option which costs about Euro 2,400. I'm not too keen to take adaptive drive as it costs a total of about Euro 5,500 (it has to be bundled with VDC/dynamic damping here). |
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BTW - bmw.co.uk does not offer M-Sport suspension!?!?!?
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Best you get a test drive in both (VDC and non-VDC). Note I have not driven either yet! My opion is based solely on logic, the wifes E60, driving an M-Sport e90 and what I have read to date about the F10. I'm waiting for the full M-Sport package. Here are my thoughts:
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@carl_d, comment on the second bullet: Note that the 523i car from Autoweek NL was on a standard suspension (without any switch button, so no VDC), and the handling was great. I really, really wonder if all these electronics are worthwile. Certaintly not for the current E60 drivers (who are used to a harsh ride -> great for your anatomy ....
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Having driven an F10 with Dynamic Drive, the active stabilisers (roll bars), do allow the chassis to be tightened up, on the sport settings. Completely flattens the cornering and helps settle the car.
Dynamic Drive Control here in the UK, 'tightens' the chassis and suspension when you have the added Dynamic Drive and/or VDC. Combined, is called Adaptive Drive. The brochure clearly spells this out as well. HighlandPete |
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