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      07-22-2010, 10:10 PM   #23
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Awesome write up but all i'm capable of doing is drinking the beers at the end
+1 Great write-up though
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How much do you save by purchasing the oil and filter to perform the work yourself?

Thanks.
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      07-23-2010, 05:24 AM   #25
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From Mike Miller:
Old School BMW Maintenance Schedule:
Break-in Service for New Cars
Traditionally, BMW performed a break-in service at 1,200 miles on new cars, which included changing the engine oil and filter, manual gearbox oil or automatic transmission fluid, and differential oil. With the advent of Free Scheduled Maintenance, BMW stopped performing break-in services except on M cars.
I have seen that the engine and driveline oils in new modern BMWs are literally full of metal at 1,200 miles – as has always been the case with any new car. For this reason, I recommend a 1,200-mile break-in service.
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How much do you save by purchasing the oil and filter to perform the work yourself?

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you save a lot if you're going with the
traditional bmw maintenance schedule.
and have peace of mind...
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      07-23-2010, 10:23 AM   #26
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How much do you save by purchasing the oil and filter to perform the work yourself?

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I bot the oil and filter for $50. Any idea what BMW charges for an oil change these days?
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      07-24-2010, 12:26 PM   #27
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Nice write up... I do my bike oil changes but have yet to get my hands dirty on a car - maybe will try once I have my own garage (condo now).
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      07-25-2010, 12:09 PM   #29
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Did you do the gearbox and diff, too?
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      07-25-2010, 12:26 PM   #30
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Did you do the gearbox and diff, too?
Skipped the diff & gearbox is for manual cars only. The diff is not hard and will do that one later. The auto transmission I will let the dealer do, it's too hard without a lift.
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      07-25-2010, 01:23 PM   #31
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Should we change tranny oil on 60K? I just don't feel safe to wait till 100K...
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      07-25-2010, 01:24 PM   #32
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I bot the oil and filter for $50. Any idea what BMW charges for an oil change these days?
My local BMW dealer charges $89.95 for quick oil/filter change, after tax/fee is $98.63.
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      07-25-2010, 01:34 PM   #33
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Should we change tranny oil on 60K? I just don't feel safe to wait till 100K...
I have heard different things about the ZF auto tranny maintenece intervals. One thing I do believe is that you won't see the benefits from early change interval until way down the line. So if you have it done then sell the car a few years later, you are doing the future owner(s) a great service. If you plan on being buried in the car, then it's probably a good preventative measure.
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      07-25-2010, 01:44 PM   #34
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Thanks! I plan to change the tranny oil on my E90 330i when it hits 60K. It's a cheap insurance and just give a peace of mind. I believe dealer can do it for ~$250 or less(still high compare to some standard cars)?

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I have heard different things about the ZF auto tranny maintenece intervals. One thing I do believe is that you won't see the benefits from early change interval until way down the line. So if you have it done then sell the car a few years later, you are doing the future owner(s) a great service. If you plan on being buried in the car, then it's probably a good preventative measure.
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      07-30-2010, 08:10 PM   #35
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A San Fernando Valley (Los Angeles) dealership quoted ~$210 to do an "oil change" for a 2011 550i.

They stated the oil was ~$9/qt and that I would need 9 qts. They said the filter was ~$35, and then a 1/2hr of labor would be charged.

They said there was no difference between oil change and oil service.

What is going on here?
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      07-30-2010, 08:26 PM   #36
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A San Fernando Valley (Los Angeles) dealership quoted ~$210 to do an "oil change" for a 2011 550i.

They stated the oil was ~$9/qt and that I would need 9 qts. They said the filter was ~$35, and then a 1/2hr of labor would be charged.

They said there was no difference between oil change and oil service.

What is going on here?
Center BMW? Not important, anyway, the oil on the website is:

Item Synthetic Motor Oil-5W-30 Part number: 07 51 0 017 866
High-performance engine oils meet or exceed SAE and CLMC specifications to help keep your engine running smoothly and cleanly. 1 qt. bottle.
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2011 5 Series 550i Sedan $6.25

The filter is about 10-15 bucks. What's going on is that they are trying to nickel and dime a brother to death. They figure you're probably some rich schmuck that has more money than time. Take the BMW badge off the car and it like any other car. Steel, plastic and rubber. Why does the dealer for my other car charge $80, when they both take synthetic oil and both have cartridge type filters?
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      07-30-2010, 08:36 PM   #37
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Center BMW?
Farther west. Do you have any recommended local dealers? You can PM if you prefer. (Edit: Scratch that, apparently I don't have enough posts to qualify for PM ).

Absolute craziness.

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      07-30-2010, 08:52 PM   #38
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Farther west. Do you have any recommended local dealers? You can PM if you prefer. (Edit: Scratch that, apparently I don't have enough posts to qualify for PM ).

Absolute craziness.
I try and avoid the dealer like the plague. You must be Rusnak or Bob Smith in Calabassas. I can't say for certain about what other dealers charge. But I found the service department in Van Nuys to be pretty helpful. Anyway, 210 for an oil change is tomfoolery, simply on principle. It's the same time,materials, and labor that goes into any other car, why should it cost 3-4 times as much? Because they got you believing that you have some rare Faberge egg.
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gatoman39, great write up and pics! Do you know how to turn off the automatic teleservice requests, as these can be annoying if you change your own oil. Also, when you change the oil by yourself, does the idrive recognize the fact that an oil change was performed and resets itself, or how do I reset the interval? Thanks!
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gatoman39, great write up and pics! Do you know how to turn off the automatic teleservice requests, as these can be annoying if you change your own oil. Also, when you change the oil by yourself, does the idrive recognize the fact that an oil change was performed and resets itself, or how do I reset the interval? Thanks!
Not sure that you can turn off the teleservice requests. The IDrive does not recognize the fact that an oil change was performed and does not reset itself. I think the dealer has to reset the interval. I was hoping to address this 2 years down the road when the free dealer performed oil change is due.
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      08-12-2010, 08:54 PM   #41
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Great post. Now I have a go-bye to do it myself.
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Gatoman39, I found something that might work, do you want to try this? Or at least see if you can get into the reset menu's? I have an X6 ordered with the N55 engine, so I figure the idrive system and resets should be the same.

http://www.bimmerzone.com/articles_idrive_reset.htm
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Gatoman39, I found something that might work, do you want to try this? Or at least see if you can get into the reset menu's? I have an X6 ordered with the N55 engine, so I figure the idrive system and resets should be the same.

http://www.bimmerzone.com/articles_idrive_reset.htm
I've seen that before. I'm not gonna try it simply because I actually want the dealer to change the oil at the 15k/2 year mark, which ever comes first. I'm gonna do another oil change at 4k miles and get the oil analyzed to see what the story is with this engine.
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      08-15-2010, 12:23 PM   #44
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Changed my oil yesterday at 1300 miles. Hadn't changed oil in 20 years, and without this detailed write-up, I would not have attempted it. Thanks very much for the step-by-step guide with photos. Some comments from my experience:

I noticed plug washer I pulled off seems to be aluminum instead of copper that I put back on. Fooled me for second since I was expecting a copper washer and the aluminum washer - which blended in with the engine bottom - was still stuck after oil drain and had to be removed with the help of a screwdriver.

The draining was a little messier than I anticipated with the bottom plug. I thought I'd lower the car only after awhile when it started to drip. But, as the oil draining slows down, it starts to adhere to the bottom of the engine and starts going toward the back of the car and then drips onto the bottom cover shield making a mess. It took some time to clean out. I should have lowered it right away after draining started to keep it dripping straight down as it slowed.

The most important step - after the jack stand safety backup - is the adult beverage at end. Need to think about some tangible short term reward for yourself. Up here in N. Calif., it tends to be a good glass of wine.

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