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      08-05-2010, 10:11 PM   #23
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After I test drove the 535 and 550 w/out the DHP, I was content with just getting the sport auto with the M-Sport for looks. Now I'm forced to get the DHP option. Maybe I'm the only one, but I'm considering just waiting until I can buy the body kit separately.
+1 . Body kit only might the cheaper/better route to take
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      08-06-2010, 01:45 AM   #24
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Has anyone compared at length (F10 535i or 550i) the M sport suspension against adaptive drive with the toggle button on sport mode and the iDrive adjusting the chassis and drivetrain?
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      08-06-2010, 04:18 AM   #25
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Yes and on the configurator they cannot be combined, which makes sense.
You're correct. I didn't realize that.
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      08-06-2010, 07:12 AM   #26
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M-suspension

I Just signed the contract yesterday for my F11 with M-package. M-suspension was part of the package. 10mm lower than normal suspension. But I ordered the EDC. I tryed it, and was convinced. Stiff enough in sport +, awesome comfort in "comfort" modus. Really the best of two worlds.
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      08-06-2010, 07:20 AM   #27
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I Just signed the contract yesterday for my F11 with M-package. M-suspension was part of the package. 10mm lower than normal suspension. But I ordered the EDC. I tryed it, and was convinced. Stiff enough in sport +, awesome comfort in "comfort" modus. Really the best of two worlds.
This is what we're all confused about.

Is EDC the Adaptive or Dynamic suspension - the ability to switch between Comfort, Normal, Sport and Sport +?

If that's what it is, then you can have M-suspension in addition to that control?
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      08-06-2010, 09:24 AM   #28
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I posted this on 5series.net:
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This is my interpretation of the technology:

Adaptive Drive = Dynamic damping control + dynamic drive

dynamic dampling control: there are sensors on each suspension that taps the movement 400 times every second. The electronic is so fast that if your front wheel goes over a pothole, the rear wheel can adjust the shock absorber of the rear wheel just that you feel as little of the pothole as possible. Obvoiusly the softer the adjustment (comfort mode) the less fun you have while cornering. I assume in sports mode, the shock absorbers make the drive stiffer and harder giving you the feeling you have with a sports suspension such as the m-suspension.

Dynamic drive: same as it was with the e60. the car is stabilized when cornering so that you actively counteract body roll - basically, it avoids the car tilting to one one while cornering.

And so what is the m-suspension: a lowered springs (10mm) and stiffer shock absorbers. As you can see from the above, technically speaking you can emulate the m-suspension with the sports mode of the adaptive drive. Basically with that oyu get the best of both worlds: comfort and yet the sporty touch to your drive.

HOWEVER, there are people who argue that they are not willing to spend 4000 USD in EU for an option that gives you hard sporty suspension that you anyway want to have the whole time - these people try out the adaptive drive and claim that they anyway want to constantly drive in sports mode: if you anyway do that, it really does not add any benefit to take a 4000 usd option. I for myself opted for other extras and just took the "standard" m-suspension.
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      08-06-2010, 10:08 AM   #29
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I posted this on 5series.net:
I agree, but I don't think the sport+ is as rigid and responsive as the M sport suspension dampers. I would like to hear feedback from those in Europe who have compared the two. It would need a significant tweak given the weight of the car.
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If you choose EDC you loose the M-suspension, which is just a fixed "old-fashioned" system. With EDC the suspension is not lowered. I have M-suspension on my 330, but sometimes I get tired of the hard ride, so I really like the possebility to change the suspension from stiff to soft. I tell you, the comfort on "comfort" was incredible. You could hardly feel speed bumps at all, but going over the same speed bumps on "sport" was like the m-package on my 330i.IF you have to pass them 10 times a day to work you get sick of those.

I get my new car in september, first thing is to test it on the Nūrburgring. Will post a report after that :-)
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      08-08-2010, 03:49 PM   #31
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But I thought if you add both, it simply replaces the M suspension in M package with the DHP.
This is correct. You cannot mix the M-Sport suspension with DHP in any market!!!!
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This is what we're all confused about.

Is EDC the Adaptive or Dynamic suspension - the ability to switch between Comfort, Normal, Sport and Sport +?

If that's what it is, then you can have M-suspension in addition to that control?
This seems wrong, the UK and German websites are very clear and I've just checked the configurator on bmw.no ... if you spec EDC (Electronic Damper Control) then your cannot have M-Sport suspension. BTW EDC is the same as Dynamic Dampers. You cannot mix the M-Sport suspension with other chassis options!

Seems you US guys have no factory option to lower the car? I'd say BMW USA are playing a marketing game and you will see a M-Sport lowered suspension option later in the model lifecycle? Bad move BMW USA.

If I were an US buyer I'd also be very unhappy with this. The magic of the M-Sport suspension set-up is not just lowering, it also provides dampers, springs and bushing tuned for mixed-size bigger wheels, from a purist view all the other chassis options are a compromise!
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      08-08-2010, 06:58 PM   #33
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I just compared a loaded 550i using the pricing in this thread versus pricing that was in effect in May. The same configuration is $7,455 more expensive now. (For Euro Delivery, the difference is $7,120.) EEEEEK!!!!!!
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I just compared a loaded 550i using the pricing in this thread versus pricing that was in effect in May. The same configuration is $7,455 more expensive now. (For Euro Delivery, the difference is $7,120.) EEEEEK!!!!!!
I am not seeing any change in pricing from May. Am I missing something?
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      08-08-2010, 09:41 PM   #35
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i was really hoping the m sport pkg was going to solidify my decision to actually make an f10 my next lease once my e60 lease ends this december. however that's not the case, seems bmw has continued to make the sport pkg's (zsp and m sport) purely cosmetic for the US market. I honestly think a non m sport f10 mod'd (such as lacster's f10 535i) looks better than an m sport configurated f10 (US market)...that m sport rear bumper is the deal breaker for me...hope RDSport releases their kit soon so i can further contemplate what I'm going to do....
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      08-13-2010, 04:15 PM   #36
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Thanks for the retail price sheet... but does anyone have the dealer invoice price for the 535i xDrive? Just the base price USA port of entry will be good enough.

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