F10 Procede / Dinan Chip Tune

skeemr4 · 08-19-2010, 11:25 AM

Does anyone know if any of the tuning companies are offering or developing remapped engine management software for the new 5er's turbocharged motors?

I'd assume we could expect gains similar to the 335's

ibimmer346 · 08-19-2010, 11:40 AM

I haven't seen any announcements releasing the JB3 or Procede for the N55 engine yet. But we'd have to assume they're working on it. I know Vishnu (Procede) has been posting updates in the E90 forums saying they are making progress.

skeemr4 · 08-19-2010, 11:45 AM

Cool...so they are developing it? I'll keep an eye out for the release.

geneatals · 08-19-2010, 12:26 PM

I've read the n55 is not as tunable as the n54...so don't expect too much...

haven't read anything about the TT V8 engine tho....

shiv@vishnu · 08-19-2010, 01:18 PM

In development

tadtaggert · 08-19-2010, 01:21 PM

Racing Dynamics is also working on it, on the website a product that takes the 550i up 88hp I believe (with no price) but when you call them what they have now is up a bit over 50hp.

From the early press releases it looks like tuners will be able to take this engine up to and perhaps just over 600hp.

johnbmw6 · 08-19-2010, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by tadtaggert

Racing Dynamics is also working on it, on the website a product that takes the 550i up 88hp I believe (with no price) but when you call them what they have now is up a bit over 50hp.

From the early press releases it looks like tuners will be able to take this engine up to and perhaps just over 600hp.

600 BHP, you must be joking, 490BHP would be pushing the internals IMO, 600BHP would blow it to bits.

bobblehead · 08-19-2010, 02:26 PM

Dinan is working on it. They are looking for test car right now (based on their website)

geneatals · 08-19-2010, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by johnbmw6

600 BHP, you must be joking, 490BHP would be pushing the internals IMO, 600BHP would blow it to bits.

well...they're not saying how long it's supposed to last

tadtaggert · 08-19-2010, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by johnbmw6

600 BHP, you must be joking, 490BHP would be pushing the internals IMO, 600BHP would blow it to bits.

You can look here:

The 550i’s R50S package will boast 620-horsepower from the 4.4-litre twin-turbocharged V8 engine.

Alongside all of these engine changes will come a new exhaust system, a high performance braking system, a new rear locking differential and a new braking system. There will be a lowered suspension as well.

The wheels come in a size of 21-inches, and they will be followed by a new aero kit.

Hueydumps · 08-19-2010, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by johnbmw6

600 BHP, you must be joking, 490BHP would be pushing the internals IMO, 600BHP would blow it to bits.

The 550i V8 is the same base motor as the X6M, X5M, F10 M5 motor...so, no joke

geneatals · 08-19-2010, 10:43 PM

so no bolt-on's to help deal with all the extra hp's?

johnbmw6 · 08-20-2010, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Hueydumps

The 550i V8 is the same base motor as the X6M, X5M, F10 M5 motor...so, no joke

It has the same block, but different Internals, run 600 BHP through it and see what happens.

tadtaggert · 08-20-2010, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by geneatals

so no bolt-on's to help deal with all the extra hp's?

I would expect anything in the >500hp range to have considerably more than just an ECU update. The Alpina B5 is just over 500hp and has among the changes a new intercooler, new pistons, and modification to the transmission.

Jimefam · 08-20-2010, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by johnbmw6

It has the same block, but different Internals, run 600 BHP through it and see what happens.

+1 it's unfortunate but things aren't built like they used to.

E60orBust · 08-20-2010, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by johnbmw6

It has the same block, but different Internals, run 600 BHP through it and see what happens.

Don't they have different internal engine codes too? like N54 and N55 for the 3-series.
If the N54 can hit 400HP with some bolt ons and ecu tweaks, I'd imagine 500HP is a good (and safe) range for the 550i. 500HP/550TQ would be flat out

Jimefam · 08-20-2010, 04:49 PM

Yeah the 550i engine is the N63 and the M motor is S63 but the only difference in the two engines I can find online is the manifold design and the turbos. Doesn't mention forged internals although I had assumed they were.

RichReg · 08-22-2010, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by tadtaggert

I would expect anything in the >500hp range to have considerably more than just an ECU update. The Alpina B5 is just over 500hp and has among the changes a new intercooler, new pistons, and modification to the transmission.

+1.
If you contact Racing Dynamics regarding the specifics, they will clearly advise you that the maximum horsepower figures they are quoting are only AFTER you purchase their package that includes modifying the internals of the engine. I believe increasing bore & stroke is one of those mods.

kplsoleil · 08-24-2010, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

In development

How long you think?

Sealobo · 08-30-2010, 08:32 PM

this thread needs to be bumped.

fireman550 · 08-30-2010, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by johnbmw6

It has the same block, but different Internals, run 600 BHP through it and see what happens.

Do we detect a little fear from the M3 driver? Just kidding, I am sure that if they do bump the power to this level (600HP) they will offer other things or add ons to mitigate any possible engine and driving problems. If they dont I would deff be weary of doing anything to my F10 550. I do believe that its only a matter of time before the true potential of a twin turbo V8 is explored and exploited.

tadtaggert · 08-30-2010, 09:39 PM

Dinan says they've been working on a 750i (almost the same engine) and have a target date of October for an ECU flash for the 550i. Target of +100hp and +150 torque.

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ibimmer346 Major Drives: 2013 650i GC, 2002 M3 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: San Diego, California, USA Posts: 1,113 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2002 BMW M3 [0.00] 2013 BMW 650i GC [0.00]	I haven't seen any announcements releasing the JB3 or Procede for the N55 engine yet. But we'd have to assume they're working on it. I know Vishnu (Procede) has been posting updates in the E90 forums saying they are making progress.

08-19-2010, 11:45 AM	#3
skeemr4 Enlisted Member Drives: None ((yet)) Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 38 iTrader: (0)	Cool...so they are developing it? I'll keep an eye out for the release.

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shiv@vishnu Drives: PROcede v5 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: SF Bay, CA Posts: 16,698 iTrader: (0)	In development

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tadtaggert Private First Class Drives: 550i F10 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Ohio Posts: 101 iTrader: (0)	Racing Dynamics is also working on it, on the website a product that takes the 550i up 88hp I believe (with no price) but when you call them what they have now is up a bit over 50hp. From the early press releases it looks like tuners will be able to take this engine up to and perhaps just over 600hp.

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bobblehead Colonel Drives: warp speed Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Toronto, On Posts: 2,546 iTrader: (0)	Dinan is working on it. They are looking for test car right now (based on their website)

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Jimefam Second Lieutenant Drives: 2011 550I Msport Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Cumming, Ga Posts: 218 iTrader: (0)	Yeah the 550i engine is the N63 and the M motor is S63 but the only difference in the two engines I can find online is the manifold design and the turbos. Doesn't mention forged internals although I had assumed they were.

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tadtaggert Private First Class Drives: 550i F10 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Ohio Posts: 101 iTrader: (0)	Dinan says they've been working on a 750i (almost the same engine) and have a target date of October for an ECU flash for the 550i. Target of +100hp and +150 torque.