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      02-07-2011, 02:15 AM   #1
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Curious to know if anyone here has successfully played music from Spotify on an iPhone through the snap in cradle or USB? If so, does album art show up and can you access playlists? I know it (obviously) works via the aux input, just curious about the other methods.
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      02-07-2011, 07:42 AM   #2
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I got it to work, but without album art, and without any ability to control it from iDrive.

Also the iDrive tries to start the iPod part sometimes, and stopping Spotify. Then you have to double click home button, and "kill" the iPod part. Then Spotify is left alone...
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      02-07-2011, 07:54 AM   #3
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So it's not supported to use Spotify at the moment.
I hope USA will get Spotify soon so BMW USA can develop the iPhone connection further. Who needs facebook in the cars sat window?
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      02-08-2011, 05:19 AM   #4
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So it's not supported to use Spotify at the moment.
I hope USA will get Spotify soon so BMW USA can develop the iPhone connection further. Who needs facebook in the cars sat window?
Agree, Spotify makes iPods and iTunes totally irrelevant.
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      02-08-2011, 05:43 AM   #5
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Agree, Spotify makes iPods and iTunes totally irrelevant.
I do not agree at all. I have the professional HI-FI, and the quality of the sound from e.g. the hard-drive, or digitally from the iPod is much better than from Spotify on an iPhone. (due to the bit-rate killing e.g. resolution in the music)
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      02-08-2011, 06:47 AM   #6
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I've heard (from my dealer) that Spotify plays nicely via the Bluetooth interface...
Has anyone tried?
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      02-08-2011, 07:52 AM   #7
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GG: The whole idea of having Spotify via the usb cable is to control it using the cars controls and screen. Using Bluetooth I guess you just use the car as a headset and you have ti control it from the iphone itself?
Bluetooth music is really downsampled as well.
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      02-08-2011, 09:39 AM   #8
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I guess the best route would be for Spotify to create a plugin(6NR) that enables Spotify look and feel in the console... but that won't happen I think...
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      02-09-2011, 07:55 AM   #9
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I do not agree at all. I have the professional HI-FI, and the quality of the sound from e.g. the hard-drive, or digitally from the iPod is much better than from Spotify on an iPhone. (due to the bit-rate killing e.g. resolution in the music)
It's true that the Spotify sound on mobile devices is of a lower bitrate than from other devices, let's say a pc. So for home use with a Sonos wireless solution, Spotify is an iTunes killer. In the car, you would still get the best sound from a CD.
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      02-09-2011, 08:13 AM   #10
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When you use spotify via bluetooth you can change song via idrive interface.
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      02-09-2011, 08:36 AM   #11
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Thats interesting RobF11. And are you able to see Spotify playlists in the iDrive interface when connected via bluetooth?
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It's true that the Spotify sound on mobile devices is of a lower bitrate than from other devices, let's say a pc. So for home use with a Sonos wireless solution, Spotify is an iTunes killer. In the car, you would still get the best sound from a CD.
That depends on your library, and the amount of new music you need. You can buy a lot from iTunes and expand an already large collection for the same price per year. And you cannot hear any difference between 320bps/256bpsVBR and the CD in the car. Even with HI-FI Pro. But you can hear the difference down to Spotify. I have now 120Gb of 256bps+ music in the car. Difficult both with CDs and Spotify.
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      02-09-2011, 09:40 AM   #13
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Thats interesting RobF11. And are you able to see Spotify playlists in the iDrive interface when connected via bluetooth?
No I can only see a fwd and back button which I can click on to change song..
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      02-09-2011, 01:43 PM   #14
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It's true that the Spotify sound on mobile devices is of a lower bitrate than from other devices, let's say a pc. So for home use with a Sonos wireless solution, Spotify is an iTunes killer. In the car, you would still get the best sound from a CD.
For Spotify home use Audio Pro is a Sonos killer!
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      02-10-2011, 09:42 AM   #15
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That depends on your library, and the amount of new music you need. You can buy a lot from iTunes and expand an already large collection for the same price per year. And you cannot hear any difference between 320bps/256bpsVBR and the CD in the car. Even with HI-FI Pro. But you can hear the difference down to Spotify. I have now 120Gb of 256bps+ music in the car. Difficult both with CDs and Spotify.
True! I only use Spotify in my house. In my car I use an 80GB ipod with music downloaded from a site with a pirate ship logo.
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If you jailbreak your iPhone, you can buy "Music Controls Pro" on it from Cydia for about $5.

This background-running app basically translates industry-standardized USB iPod commands to other 3rd party apps, such as Spotify. So when the car computer is sending a standardized iPod command request to "change track" (which works with iPods or the "iPod" app on your iPhone), Spotify can actually understand it and change the track. You can jailbreak your old iPhone (3G, 3GS), install Controls Pro on it and always leave it in your car. Obviously there is no way to display Spotify playlists on iDrive as they are completely custom and incompatible with iPod playlists.

I think the sound quality via USB is better when compared to A2DC Bluetooth.

A side note: as BMW now allows developers to develop "BMW Apps" for iDrive, I suspect that a Spotify app for iDrive might come soon (playlists support!), either from Spotify company directly, or from some other developer, since Spotify API is publicly available. Pandora has been recently released as a BMW App: http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13746_7-20058401-48.html

Still, the only problem is, both Spotify and Pandora sound awful on high volume (either Bluetooth or USB) if you have a premium stereo (Logic 7, DIRAC Individual, Harman Kardon...). The sound is OK only until you compare it to CDs or 256 AAC/320 MP3 from a USB stick.

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      05-03-2011, 04:19 AM   #17
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Spotify is available in the new Audi A6. So, we can only hope that BMW is considering it also. Spotify is terrific.
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      05-19-2011, 10:52 AM   #18
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Any news on this? Should we maybe start bugging Spotify about it?
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      05-20-2011, 01:29 AM   #19
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A side note: as BMW now allows developers to develop "BMW Apps" for iDrive,
Any link to where I can find information (SDK) on this?
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Sorry for bringing up such an old thread, but did you ever find the SDK for this?
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      02-15-2012, 01:13 PM   #21
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Sorry for bringing up such an old thread, but did you ever find the SDK for this?
No, I gave up..
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Considering how few BMW apps there is, I bet there isn't one.
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