Fifth Gear Video Review: F10 535d M-sport vs. Jaguar XF Diesel S

Jason · 04-16-2011, 11:19 AM

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Fifth Gear's Vicki Henderson takes the 535d M-sport against the Jaguar XF Diesel S onto the track for a hotlap showdown at the Assen circuit. Both cars are powered by 6 cylinder turbo diesel engines.

The 535d motor is good for 300hp and 440 pound-feet of torque, which covers 0-62mph in 5.7 seconds while achieving 46.3mpg. The Jaguar XF Diesel S has 275hp under the hood with its 3.0L AJV6D Generation III diesel turbo with 0-60 in 5.9 seconds and an MPG of 42mpg. Winner? Results inside.

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hks786 · 04-16-2011, 11:53 AM

I think this was quite a close one. The 535d did have better handling and brakes though.

keanu1 · 04-16-2011, 12:15 PM

too close if you askme!!! what will happen when the next gen x comes out?

vladberca · 04-16-2011, 01:10 PM

The bimmer motor is far superior

Sealobo · 04-16-2011, 01:17 PM

awesome. thanks for the link!

gatoman39 · 04-16-2011, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by F25X3

i hope bmw listens to vicky. poor steering feel (electric power steering) and body roll. this new 5ser is s*** to drive. I have never seen vicky turn a face like that while driving a bmw. These days if you want to buy a proper bmw (new that is) its either an M or nothing.

Depends on the car. She drove the 535i with active steering and loved it. Not all F10's are created equal. Suspension and tire set up on this car is critical. Yes, it's a huge car, and no it doesn't inspire you like an M3, but it's still a BMW.

Wolf · 04-16-2011, 05:29 PM

F10 535d is 330 hp... according to the bmw website... I didn't know it made more power than the 535i (306 hp)... the diesel has better 0-60 times also, and the weight difference is only 50kg appx 100lb... not bad... at this point why buy the gasoline if active steering is also available for the diesel...

bimmin · 04-17-2011, 08:25 AM

These cars would state about 10 miles less per gallon if tested for the US market. 10 miles per gallon is a pretty big difference. That's like being able to drive an extra 180 miles per tank with the 5er's 18+gal tank.

aspiring335 · 04-17-2011, 10:00 AM

Only because US gallons are smaller. Another reason why everyone should switch to l/100 km instead of mpg.

wilstave · 04-17-2011, 01:40 PM

If Top Gear did a review of these 2 cars, it would an 11 minute clip....who watches Fifth Gear? really? ugh

Malbolge · 04-17-2011, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by F25X3

These days if you want to buy a proper bmw (new that is) its either an M or nothing.

i think you nailed it right there.
but in real life that 5er does looks impressive with that power and fuel economy.. 300hp and 46mph (ok, it's fake bmw mpg, so real life its aroudn 40 but stll, wow).

Quasimodem · 04-17-2011, 05:17 PM

Good to see somebody is building car-sized diesel engines other than the Germans. I guess this 535d uses the upgraded diesel engine: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...=diesel+engine

hubble bubble · 04-17-2011, 05:28 PM

BMW still makes great engines (but lousy fuel pumps). I've driven the 335d and it was really impressive. Not as nice as my "dinanized" n54, but very impressive for a diesel.

Reallt is too bad about the steering. Steering feel and feedback is one of ther things that makes BMW cars special, set them apart from MB and the others. I really hope they get that electric steering dialed in for the new 3 series or my current 3 will be my last.

Yogijet · 04-18-2011, 12:12 AM

Nice going, BMW. The 135 still has great bmw steering though, especially if you add the BMW PS.

icecold601 · 04-18-2011, 11:42 AM

Video cannot be seen in the UK

"This video contains content from Channel 5, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds."

LuvMyE92 · 04-19-2011, 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilstave

If Top Gear did a review of these 2 cars, it would an 11 minute clip....who watches Fifth Gear? really? ugh

I like fifth gear and I think Vicky is cute. OK, sure, Richard Hammond is cuter, but hey, I don't swing that way.

Terza · 04-21-2011, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icecold601

Video cannot be seen in the UK

"This video contains content from Channel 5, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds."

Use this:

www.hidemyass.com

johnbmw6 · 04-21-2011, 10:33 AM

I just can not see how that Jaguar can get near the BMW, I drove the same Jag diesel and it was crap compared to the 35D BMW.

eripers · 04-21-2011, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnbmw6

I just can not see how that Jaguar can get near the BMW, I drove the same Jag diesel and it was crap compared to the 35D BMW.

Fifth gear cannot really be trusted when comparing German and British cars. I have seen this for years. I find Top gear more onest about the state of the UK car industry.

04-16-2011, 11:19 AM	#1
Jason Administrator Drives: E90 M3 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: IoT Posts: 13,911 iTrader: (0)	Fifth Gear Video Review: F10 535d M-sport vs. Jaguar XF Diesel S BIMMERPOST NEWS Fifth Gear Video Review: F10 535d M-sport vs. Jaguar XF Diesel S 19 COMMENTS Tweet Fifth Gear's Vicki Henderson takes the 535d M-sport against the Jaguar XF Diesel S onto the track for a hotlap showdown at the Assen circuit. Both cars are powered by 6 cylinder turbo diesel engines. The 535d motor is good for 300hp and 440 pound-feet of torque, which covers 0-62mph in 5.7 seconds while achieving 46.3mpg. The Jaguar XF Diesel S has 275hp under the hood with its 3.0L AJV6D Generation III diesel turbo with 0-60 in 5.9 seconds and an MPG of 42mpg. Winner? Results inside. Share this story OTHER STORIES YOU MIGHT LIKE Official: The 2014 BMW 5 Series. LCI Facelift Photos and Details (and US Pricing) More Official Images of 2014 BMW 5 Series LCI Facelift Latest BMW Emergency Vehicles to be Debuted at RETTmobil 2013 __________________ Check on the Latest BMW News Become a fan of Bimmerpost Facebook Follow us on Bimmerpost Twitter Subscribe to Bimmerpost Youtube Channel
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04-16-2011, 11:53 AM	#2
hks786 Major General Drives: * Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: UK Posts: 5,311 iTrader: (0)	I think this was quite a close one. The 535d did have better handling and brakes though. __________________

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aspiring335 Major Drives: 2010 E91 6MT Join Date: May 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,403 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 330i [0.00]	Only because US gallons are smaller. Another reason why everyone should switch to l/100 km instead of mpg. __________________ 2010 E91 328i xdrive. 6MT, Sports, Premium Sound, Navigation 2010 VW Touareg TDI, 2006 E90 330i, 2004 E46 325iT, 2003 MINI Cooper S (Retired)

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Quasimodem Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 335d Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: California Posts: 1,708 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 335d US [0.00]	Good to see somebody is building car-sized diesel engines other than the Germans. I guess this 535d uses the upgraded diesel engine: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...=diesel+engine __________________ The BMW Diesel, it's not your grandfather's Dieselmobile.

04-18-2011, 12:12 AM	#14
Yogijet Lieutenant Drives: 2009 BMW 135i, Jet Black Join Date: May 2010 Location: Palms Valley Posts: 562 iTrader: (0)	Nice going, BMW. The 135 still has great bmw steering though, especially if you add the BMW PS. __________________ BMW Performance Exhaust, Michelin Pilot Supersports F-225/40, R-255/35, BMW Performance Suspension, BMW Performance black kidneys, Quaife LSD, M3 rear sub-f bushings, BMW Performance cross-drilled/slotted rotors, AFE Cold Air Intake.

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keanu1 tiamat Drives: 525 d Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: romania Posts: 1,269 iTrader: (0)	too close if you askme!!! what will happen when the next gen x comes out?

04-16-2011, 01:10 PM	#4
vladberca Colonel Drives: '09 jetta tsi 6mt Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Craiova Posts: 2,806 iTrader: (0)	The bimmer motor is far superior

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Sealobo Second Lieutenant Drives: . Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: . Posts: 299 iTrader: (0)	awesome. thanks for the link!

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bimmin Private First Class Drives: 330xi Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Vermont Posts: 139 iTrader: (0)	These cars would state about 10 miles less per gallon if tested for the US market. 10 miles per gallon is a pretty big difference. That's like being able to drive an extra 180 miles per tank with the 5er's 18+gal tank.

04-17-2011, 01:40 PM	#10
wilstave Legend Drives: 2011 Le Mans Blue 335is Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 131 iTrader: (0)	If Top Gear did a review of these 2 cars, it would an 11 minute clip....who watches Fifth Gear? really? ugh

04-17-2011, 05:28 PM	#13
hubble bubble Captain Drives: 2008 335i Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Calgary, AB, Canada Posts: 682 iTrader: (0)	BMW still makes great engines (but lousy fuel pumps). I've driven the 335d and it was really impressive. Not as nice as my "dinanized" n54, but very impressive for a diesel. Reallt is too bad about the steering. Steering feel and feedback is one of ther things that makes BMW cars special, set them apart from MB and the others. I really hope they get that electric steering dialed in for the new 3 series or my current 3 will be my last.

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icecold601 BMW Knight Drives: F01 740d Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Nottingham, UK Posts: 34 iTrader: (0)	Video cannot be seen in the UK "This video contains content from Channel 5, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds."

04-21-2011, 10:33 AM	#18
johnbmw6 Live for today tomorrow never comes Drives: 2014 LCI M5 coming October Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: UK Posts: 3,093 iTrader: (0)	I just can not see how that Jaguar can get near the BMW, I drove the same Jag diesel and it was crap compared to the 35D BMW. __________________ Live for now, life is too short. 2013 M5 LCI on Order for October.

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