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      06-25-2011, 03:56 PM   #1
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1st Oil change?

I have followed BMW's recommended oil service intervals in my prior leased E60's, but since I purchased my new F10 550i, I am thinking about breaking up the BMW oil service intervals, and replacing oil/filter on my nickle half thru interval cycles ,( about every 6500-7000 miles).

I plan on keeping this car 100K miles +, and just have never bought off on running oil/filter for anything more than 7500 miles.

I know oil technology has come a long way, wasnt 10 years ago I changed my oil every 3000 miles or so.

But, I also am considering in changing the oil right after break in period, at 1500-2000 miles. Just passed 1500 miles today, think I am going to do this next week. Always used to do this prior cars that I owned.

What are you experts doing?
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      06-25-2011, 04:03 PM   #2
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No expert here, but I did change the oil at 1500, 7,500 and plan to follow a 7,500 mile schedule. I bought the car and feel it is better to be safe than sorry.
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1000 miles - German Castrol & BMW Filter (me)
4000 miles - German Castrol & BMW Filter (me)
8300 miles - BMW Oil & Filter (dealer free 1 year low mileage oil change)

DIY Oil Change F10 5-series (N55 motor)

I am a firm believer of early and often for the break-in/ 1st year of the car. After this I'm looking at 5-7500 miles, or roughly once a year. Most of my driving is city, short trips.
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Had the oil and filters changed after 26.000 kms (it's a diesel). That is exactly like the F10's motor management instructed me.

I was shocked when I saw the invoice though, they charged me 410 EUR (= 580 USD) for it , including about 160 EUR for the 7 liters 5w30 oil.
Or shall I say they plan to charge me 410 EUR. Because I think it's outrageous and will have a chat with my dealer.

So, what do you guys pay for this service?
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      06-25-2011, 04:45 PM   #5
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So, what do you guys pay for this service?
50 USD. I do it in my garage. You can buy the supplies and take it to a mechanic. I wouldn't pay more than $100
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      06-25-2011, 05:13 PM   #6
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Why are you guys paying if maintenance is included?
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      06-25-2011, 05:26 PM   #7
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Why are you guys paying if maintenance is included?
Two different answers: for the non-US owners above, maintenance is not included. For the US owners, the maintenance that is included doesn't happen often enough for them, so they have to pay for the oil changes they want in between the scheduled ones.
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Why are you guys paying if maintenance is included?
Only in the States, its a big world out there and warranties aren't so "friendly".

Be thankful for the duration and scope of the BMWNA warranties (and sales price).

Even for BMWNA owners, correct me if I am wrong, but I think only the recommended maintenance is free.
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      06-25-2011, 06:36 PM   #9
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Only in the States, its a big world out there and warranties aren't so "friendly".

Be thankful for the duration and scope of the BMWNA warranties (and sales price).

Even for BMWNA owners, correct me if I am wrong, but I think only the recommended maintenance is free.
Correct, only scheduled maintenance is free. And BMW's "schedule" in once every 2 years or 15k miles which ever comes first. Which means during the warranty period you get 2 free oil changes. Sorry, as an owner, not a renter, I'm not buying into that philosophy.
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Sorry, as an owner, not a renter, I'm not buying into that philosophy.
Thanks.

Agreed on the oil change, we have seen this debate play out before on this forum, much like the fuel topic.
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Or shall I say they plan to charge me 410 EUR. Because I think it's outrageous and will have a chat with my dealer.

So, what do you guys pay for this service?

Do BMW sell 'Service Inclusive' in The Netherlands ?

In Ireland the basic one is 400, good value if you plan to keep the car more than 2 years.(Valid for 5 years or 100,000 km whichever comes first)

Here's what is included..
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File Type: pdf BMWServiceInclusive.pdf (250.2 KB, 156 views)
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      06-26-2011, 09:34 AM   #12
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Do BMW sell 'Service Inclusive' in The Netherlands ?

In Ireland the basic one is 400, good value if you plan to keep the car more than 2 years.(Valid for 5 years or 100,000 km whichever comes first)

Here's what is included..
Thanks a lot!
I will ask my dealer if they're offering something similar in NL.
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changed first one 4000 miles myself, then 10k miles dealer did free change, next 7k i'll do myself, and then next 8k dealer free
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I was shocked when I saw the invoice though, they charged me 410 EUR (= 580 USD) for it , including about 160 EUR for the 7 liters 5w30 oil.
I recently bought 20 litres (4 containers of 5 litres each) of Fuchs synthetic that's approved for Mercedes diesels and paid about $130 (don't know what that is in Euros).I believe that Fuchs is a European brand so I would think it would be even cheaper there.Of course our taxes aren't nearly as high as yours.
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Do BMW sell 'Service Inclusive' in The Netherlands ?

In Ireland the basic one is 400, good value if you plan to keep the car more than 2 years.(Valid for 5 years or 100,000 km whichever comes first)

Here's what is included..
5 years basic for 400 are you kidding? That is really cheap..
I paid 5k for a 2yr plan on an MB .. stupid me, first car.
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Thanks, getting it changed tomorrow.
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Is it not free under the BMW service inclusive package?
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Is it not free under the BMW service inclusive package?
yes, but only at specified service intervals based on your driving style, generally every 11-13,000 miles. Thats crazy too long in my book, regardless of the improvements in synthetic oil technology
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yes, but only at specified service intervals based on your driving style, generally every 11-13,000 miles. Thats crazy too long in my book, regardless of the improvements in synthetic oil technology
In the USA, the dealer will change your oil one calender year after delivery without resetting the interval computer. Even if you are below the 15k miles. However, you have to ask for it, the car wont do it for you.
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Correct, only scheduled maintenance is free. And BMW's "schedule" in once every 2 years or 15k miles which ever comes first. Which means during the warranty period you get 2 free oil changes. Sorry, as an owner, not a renter, I'm not buying into that philosophy.
Well said - I am planning to change mine right at the end of the break-in period as well - a few more road trips and that should be coming quick! Lifetime oil? mmm, maybe with a rental car fleet, but not with my new pride and joy!
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yes, but only at specified service intervals based on your driving style, generally every 11-13,000 miles. Thats crazy too long in my book, regardless of the improvements in synthetic oil technology
Initial oil changes were at 7500 - post tune - about 5500 - 6000 mile intervals. Current odo N63/GT 23k. New "11" Cooper S - oil changed at 2900....

Turbo engines love oil, I am going to make sure they're fed a fresh supply.

My N.A. vehicles are running synthetic as well, oil change intervals at 7500.
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My "change engine oil" reminder came on this weekend at exactly 7500 miles and 9 months of ownership. I called the dealer for an appointment and they even offered a loaner for the day. It appears that some posters are getting the notice at later mileages and time of ownership. Does this mean that i am driving mine harder or faster? BTW it has not used a drop of oil so far.
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