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2010 2011 BMW 5 Series Forum F10
Official Premiere: BMW F10 ActiveHybrid 5
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| 09-29-2011, 05:58 PM | #3 |
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You didn't miss it, all it says is that the ActiveHybrid 5 makes for a "double-digit percentage improvement in fuel economy over the BMW 535i based on preliminary results."
Best regards, south
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| 09-29-2011, 06:03 PM | #5 | |
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Best regards, south
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| 09-29-2011, 06:30 PM | #7 | |
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As a further note the gasoline engine's torque is going to be roughly constant (increasing linearly) in the mid range with low torque at the ends. The electric motor has a linearly decreasing torque with maximum torque at low RPM and minimum torque at peak RPM. Why don't they couple the N20 with the EM? Seems to make a lot more sense... But this is the same strategy as Honda had with the Accord Hybrid. They coupled a 20HP electric motor with their larger (240HP) V6 engine. They got marginally increased efficiency with marginally better performance. It didn't sell well... |
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| 09-29-2011, 06:32 PM | #8 |
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Hopefully still got enough trunk space with the battery there!
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| 09-29-2011, 06:39 PM | #9 |
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EU consumption figures added to first post:
Combined (best/worst): 6.4/7.0 l per 100km (equals 36.8/33.6mpg) Best regards, south
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| 09-29-2011, 06:49 PM | #10 |
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Hybrid... again... Oh well, At least it looks way better than ActiveHybrid 7 and X6.
I just hope one day I can see the title says "Official Premiere: BMW F10 535d" I think I have to wait for a while... |
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| 09-29-2011, 06:54 PM | #11 |
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If the technology doesn't add much weight and doesn't' mess up the dynamics of the car (near 50/50 weight distribution) then hail yeah!
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| 09-29-2011, 07:42 PM | #12 |
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Considering BMW's history of using the end user as the last link in R&D development...after you.
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| 09-29-2011, 08:23 PM | #13 |
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Coasting (engine switched off and decoupled) possible at speeds of up to 100mph.
Hell I can do that in my E90, I just have to get it up to 110 mph, then stick it in neutral. I wouldn't turn the engine off- but I'm coasting at 100! |
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| 09-29-2011, 08:33 PM | #14 | |
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I was planning on my next car being an F10 535d. The Active Hybrid 5 makes me think that's not going to happen.
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| 09-29-2011, 10:12 PM | #15 |
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Nice car for those with consciences. But i'll stick to my V8 and drive it in a way where I get 13-14 mpg.
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| 09-30-2011, 07:24 AM | #17 |
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this will flop because it will be too expensive. like X6 Active Hybrid it will be too close in price to high performance and more exclusive cars (like M cars).
This car should be a 520d with lithium ion battery and cost like 528 or something. May be then. ![]()
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| 09-30-2011, 09:22 AM | #18 |
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Far be it from me to be presumptuous about BMW's strategic integration of introducing hybrids into their line up, but I wonder why the top down approach rather than introducing functional hybrids in an affordable chassis? Aside from that, the hybrid 5 series is just as sexy as the standard 5'er.
Best, Tony
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| 09-30-2011, 12:03 PM | #20 |
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The biggest shame about this vehicle is that the badge "Activehybrid 5" all over it.
From the extra badging on the rear quarter panel, to the door frames, I just think it's sad. Just what you need, a reminder everywhere you look that you're in a hybrid. Everything else about the car is just fantastic though. |
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| 09-30-2011, 12:10 PM | #21 |
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Maybe someone will sell some aftermarket "535h" badges for a bit more subtlety. Or, you could always debadge entirely.
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| 09-30-2011, 01:04 PM | #22 |
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Sad to see BMW wasting it's time with a gasoline hybrid. When all's said and done, this car will probably be less efficient and not quite as quick as the new 315hp 535d available in Europe.
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