[realbass1]

Ordered my 2013 528i ... sadly this is not an option available yet.

[Acquarian]

Originally Posted by bobblehead

wow. Nice post. Now, it makes mine totally obsolete.

No it does not make the car obsolete, those horrible dials...
I have seen them and they are horrible, anyway it is an option, and also if you go for it you cannot have a HUD ( overhead display ) that I prefer, and it will cost you around £ 510, around $ 8000 ,

not worth it in my opinion,

[ryyster]

Originally Posted by Acquarian

No it does not make the car obsolete, those horrible dials...
I have seen them and they are horrible, anyway it is an option, and also if you go for it you cannot have a HUD ( overhead display ) that I prefer, and it will cost you around £ 510, around $ 8000 ,

not worth it in my opinion,

Your right, it's only an option. At that price I would pass as well. I currently have HUD and love it. I guess I'll wait til it is launched and reviewed before I pass complete judgement.

[delvek]

Wow, lots of changes, not sure how I feel about them. In the past any digital guages I have had seemed sort of video gamish and not real. I am open to them but hope its not one more thing to numb the driving experience. Guess I will see when I order my M4.

[GIANITALY]

THIS IS NOT NEW.

[DitrasetMan]

The Technology Package for the 2013 includes (for $2,800): (609) Navigation, (610) Head-up Display, (615) Online Information Services, (6NF) Smartphone Integration, (6NR) BMW Apps, (6UH) Real Time Traffic Information, and (6WA) Instrument cluster with extended contents.

Is the "Instrument cluster with extended contents" the same thing as the instrument display we are talking about here? If not, what is it? I do not see any other available options on the pricing guide that say "instrument."

[Losco]

Originally Posted by DitrasetMan

The Technology Package for the 2013 includes (for $2,800): (609) Navigation, (610) Head-up Display, (615) Online Information Services, (6NF) Smartphone Integration, (6NR) BMW Apps, (6UH) Real Time Traffic Information, and (6WA) Instrument cluster with extended contents.

Is the "Instrument cluster with extended contents" the same thing as the instrument display we are talking about here? If not, what is it? I do not see any other available options on the pricing guide that say "instrument."

6WA is just full black display panel, one with "disappearing" speedo and tach number when car's off.

[DitrasetMan]

Originally Posted by Losco

6WA is just full black display panel, one with "disappearing" speedo and tach number when car's off.

I do not see any other way to get the new multifunction instrument display - I am not seeing any specific option for it.

[clarence]

Originally Posted by DitrasetMan

I do not see any other way to get the new multifunction instrument display - I am not seeing any specific option for it.

The new MID's option code is 6WB. If combined with HUD option the price of 6WB is reduced by approx. 50%, tho 6WA is free with HUD.
Apart from the fancy dials under different driving modes, it offers nothing over 6WA, esp if u already have HUD.

[rhinosaur]

Originally Posted by DitrasetMan

The Technology Package for the 2013 includes (for $2,800): (609) Navigation, (610) Head-up Display, (615) Online Information Services, (6NF) Smartphone Integration, (6NR) BMW Apps, (6UH) Real Time Traffic Information, and (6WA) Instrument cluster with extended contents.

This is crazy. Here in Germany I would have to add TV Function in order to have (6NR) BMW Apps, which would have cost me something around 1,400 EUR.

[MPH]

Originally Posted by clarence

The new MID's option code is 6WB. If combined with HUD option the price of 6WB is reduced by approx. 50%, tho 6WA is free with HUD.
Apart from the fancy dials under different driving modes, it offers nothing over 6WA, esp if u already have HUD.

In the UK you cannot have the MFID with the HUD. I queried my dealer on this as the bulletins/price list looks as though you only lose the Full Black Panel Display so he ran it through the internal configuration/costing system and adding MFID definitely threw out the
HUD. So MFID = No HUD (at least in the UK)

[Bimmernerd]

Originally Posted by rhinosaur

This is crazy. Here in Germany I would have to add TV Function in order to have (6NR) BMW Apps, which would have cost me something around 1,400 EUR.

And in Sweden you have to buy all the options in the Technology package separetely...for a total sum of 6.900 USD (5.600 EUR)!

[Alan l.]

Originally Posted by clarence

The new MID's option code is 6WB. If combined with HUD option the price of 6WB is reduced by approx. 50%, tho 6WA is free with HUD.
Apart from the fancy dials under different driving modes, it offers nothing over 6WA, esp if u already have HUD.

I'm guessing the cars are spec'ed differently around the world because I see others get other options that we don't have in the US. From my understanding we are getting the full lcd dash cluster in the US starting July builds but on the ordering sheets there is no 6WB anywhere. Just 6WA which is part of the technology package and describes it as "Instrument cluster with extended contents". This isn't listed on the 2012 cars even with HUD which comes with the full black panel display.

Alan

[nyranger74]

Im pretty sure the 6WB will not be available in the US until next year

[Alan l.]

^^ Where did you hear this from?

Everything i've read just said 2013 F10 will get it. Nothing about the US and European countries getting it different times.

Also if thats the case whats this "Instrument cluster with extended contents" that people are paying extra for in the Technology package? Just the same cluster all the 2011 and 2012 got if you got HUD? I would be seriously pissed off if thats the case....

Alan

[rhinosaur]

Originally Posted by Alan l.

^^ Where did you hear this from?

Everything i've read just said 2013 F10 will get it. Nothing about the US and European countries getting it different times.

Jason posted this somewhere else in the forum.

http://www.wired.com/autopia/2012/05/bmw-idrive-4x/

If you see it from 3'50" onwards you hear that the MFID is coming to the U.S. one year later than in Europe.

[Alan l.]

Are you kidding me??!! So those of us ordering the 2013 model is going to get shafted compared to the guys overseas.

there i was excited i waited for the 2013 model thinking i was going to get something new and now it turns out this is not the case.

Are we getting the new updated nav or is that just europe only too?

Alan

[clarence]

Originally Posted by MPH

In the UK you cannot have the MFID with the HUD. I queried my dealer on this as the bulletins/price list looks as though you only lose the Full Black Panel Display so he ran it through the internal configuration/costing system and adding MFID definitely threw out the
HUD. So MFID = No HUD (at least in the UK)

It different config for different countries. In Germany u can get MFID for 300 Euros if combined with HUD, yet it costs I think 700 or 800 Euros if standalone.
Just like u cannot get passive M-sport suspension or M-steering wheel as standalone on UK SE-spec cars.

[clarence]

Originally Posted by Alan l.

Just 6WA which is part of the technology package and describes it as "Instrument cluster with extended contents".

6WA is just the full black panel with the additional display below the speedo. No change since 2011. The name "Instrument cluster with extended contents" is a direct translation from their German price list.

[Jason]

Originally Posted by Alan l.

Are you kidding me??!! So those of us ordering the 2013 model is going to get shafted compared to the guys overseas.

there i was excited i waited for the 2013 model thinking i was going to get something new and now it turns out this is not the case.

Are we getting the new updated nav or is that just europe only too?

Alan

2013 5 Series (starts production July) will get the new navigational professional.

[DitrasetMan]

Originally Posted by Alan l.

Are you kidding me??!! So those of us ordering the 2013 model is going to get shafted compared to the guys overseas.

there i was excited i waited for the 2013 model thinking i was going to get something new and now it turns out this is not the case.

Are we getting the new updated nav or is that just europe only too?

Alan

Alan,

I am in the same boat as you are. I have a 2012 waiting for me to buy it on the lot, but I have been holding off so I could instead order a 2013 with the updated nav/idrive and MFID.

Correct me if I am wrong everyone, but we are all 100% certain that the july production 2013 F10s will in fact have the updated navigation and idrive (as demonstrated in http://www.wired.com/autopia/2012/05/bmw-idrive-4x/), BUT we believe that the 2013 F10 will not have the new MFID and the "U.S. consumers won’t get a crack at the new display until next year" language on http://www.wired.com/autopia/2012/05/bmw-idrive-4x/ means that we won't see it until 2014 F10's? And, the 6WA which comes with the 2013 Technology Package is NOT the new MFID?

I am hesitant to be so certain that the 6WA in the Tech Package for the 2013 F10 is not the new MFID, and I will tell you why - If you try to build a new 5 series on the BMW UK website, you can add as an option, for 115 British pounds, the "Black Panel Display," which is described as a:

"Full Black panel technology, as described on the left, but additionally with a high-resolution 9.2" Info Display below. This shows such information as current fuel consumption, range, on-board computer functions and trip and mileage counter in parallel with navigation prompts. The display features Black Panel technology, when the ignition is off, it appears as a flat, Matt Black surface. The only three-dimensional elements are the Chrome rings, open at the bottom, that encircle the display’s dials. As soon as the vehicle is opened, the Chrome rings turn into full circles, and the dials and displays appear. (Only in conjunction with Headup Display)."

And here is the kicker - guess what the BMW code is for the UK "Black Panel Display"? "6WA". Are we surrrreeee this is not the same 6WA in the U.S. Technology Package?

Thoughts?

[clarence]

Originally Posted by DitrasetMan

Alan,

I am in the same boat as you are. I have a 2012 waiting for me to buy it on the lot, but I have been holding off so I could instead order a 2013 with the updated nav/idrive and MFID.

Correct me if I am wrong everyone, but we are all 100% certain that the july production 2013 F10s will in fact have the updated navigation and idrive (as demonstrated in http://www.wired.com/autopia/2012/05/bmw-idrive-4x/), BUT we believe that the 2013 F10 will not have the new MFID and the "U.S. consumers won’t get a crack at the new display until next year" language on http://www.wired.com/autopia/2012/05/bmw-idrive-4x/ means that we won't see it until 2014 F10's? And, the 6WA which comes with the 2013 Technology Package is NOT the new MFID?

I am hesitant to be so certain that the 6WA in the Tech Package for the 2013 F10 is not the new MFID, and I will tell you why - If you try to build a new 5 series on the BMW UK website, you can add as an option, for 115 British pounds, the "Black Panel Display," which is described as a:

"Full Black panel technology, as described on the left, but additionally with a high-resolution 9.2" Info Display below. This shows such information as current fuel consumption, range, on-board computer functions and trip and mileage counter in parallel with navigation prompts. The display features Black Panel technology, when the ignition is off, it appears as a flat, Matt Black surface. The only three-dimensional elements are the Chrome rings, open at the bottom, that encircle the display’s dials. As soon as the vehicle is opened, the Chrome rings turn into full circles, and the dials and displays appear. (Only in conjunction with Headup Display)."

And here is the kicker - guess what the BMW code is for the UK "Black Panel Display"? "6WA". Are we surrrreeee this is not the same 6WA in the U.S. Technology Package?

Thoughts?

The updated nav will be on post-July build US-spec cars, but the new MFID won't be (it's not on the 2013 order guide).
6WA is 6WA is 6WA, no matter which country. 6WA is a standalone option in Germany for 150 Euros, but it comes free with either Professional Nav or HUD.
6WB, which is the new MFID, is a 600 Euro option. If combined with a specific option package it costs 300 Euros.