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      06-15-2012, 08:11 PM   #1
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I am an offset dimwit

I have a 2011 550i m sport. Current rims are 9X8.5 ET 33 14mm in and 19X9 ET44 rear 23 mm in.

I am interested in buying Beyern Baroque Silver with Machine Face as follows (as specified on the getyour wheels website)

20x9 Front 32
20X10.5 Rear 27

When I use the offset listed, my front space increases by 36.106 mm but I only have 23 mm of clearance? What am I missing?

10.5 inch rims plus one inch (lip) divided by 2 is 5.75 plus a 27mm (1.06299 inch) offset is 6.813 backspace inches subtracted from the 11.5 inch total rim size is 4.687 inches (Front ******* or 83mm. This compares to a 3.268 inch OEM front space or 119mm for a difference of 36.1mm additional front space. The guys at getyour wheels say these rims will fit in the rear with NO issues.

I am sure they are experts but I can not get the numbers to work???

Please help out a dimwit.....
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Given those proposed spec.

F: assuming you are to use 255/35/20 tires
-5mm clearance from strut and +7mm extension from fender edge

R: asumming you are to use 285/30/20 tires
-2mm clearance from strut and +36mm extension from fender edge

http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=682126
See post # 10 - same width but offset is 45

http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=618392
More discussion on the 20 * 10.5 wheel fitting


However, you are downsize the rear to 20*10 et 37 with same size tires
-6mm clearance from strut and +20mm extension from fender edge

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20X9 front 22et / 20x10 rear 36et / 20x10.5 40-41et
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      06-17-2012, 05:36 AM   #4
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The guys at getyour wheels say these rims will fit in the rear with NO issues.

I am sure they are experts but I can not get the numbers to work???

Please help out a dimwit.....
Front is fine, rear will stick out past the fender.

Pics of 10.5 ET35 and 20x10.5 ET26 in this thread for reference.
http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=618392
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I have a 2011 550i m sport. Current rims are 9X8.5 ET 33 14mm in and 19X9 ET44 rear 23 mm in.

I am interested in buying Beyern Baroque Silver with Machine Face as follows (as specified on the getyour wheels website)

20x9 Front 32
20X10.5 Rear 27

When I use the offset listed, my front space increases by 36.106 mm but I only have 23 mm of clearance? What am I missing?

10.5 inch rims plus one inch (lip) divided by 2 is 5.75 plus a 27mm (1.06299 inch) offset is 6.813 backspace inches subtracted from the 11.5 inch total rim size is 4.687 inches (Front ******* or 83mm. This compares to a 3.268 inch OEM front space or 119mm for a difference of 36.1mm additional front space. The guys at getyour wheels say these rims will fit in the rear with NO issues.

I am sure they are experts but I can not get the numbers to work???

Please help out a dimwit.....
I would like to see pics...
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I have a 2011 550i m sport. Current rims are 9X8.5 ET 33 14mm in and 19X9 ET44 rear 23 mm in.

I am interested in buying Beyern Baroque Silver with Machine Face as follows (as specified on the getyour wheels website)

20x9 Front 32
20X10.5 Rear 27

When I use the offset listed, my front space increases by 36.106 mm but I only have 23 mm of clearance? What am I missing?

10.5 inch rims plus one inch (lip) divided by 2 is 5.75 plus a 27mm (1.06299 inch) offset is 6.813 backspace inches subtracted from the 11.5 inch total rim size is 4.687 inches (Front ******* or 83mm. This compares to a 3.268 inch OEM front space or 119mm for a difference of 36.1mm additional front space. The guys at getyour wheels say these rims will fit in the rear with NO issues.

I am sure they are experts but I can not get the numbers to work???

Please help out a dimwit.....
I have these same rims on my car. Check out the photo section. Its labeled 20" Beyern Baroque rims.
The rear sticks out but not past the fenders. Its tastefully done!

I might be selling them and going 22". Im on the fence. Let me know if your interested.
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I have these same rims on my car. Check out the photo section. Its labeled 20" Beyern Baroque rims.
The rear sticks out but not past the fenders. Its tastefully done!

I might be selling them and going 22". Im on the fence. Let me know if your interested.
I am still contemplating as I am very concerned about the offset. I know you indicated you had no issues.
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Okay,

I like the Vossen Staggered Set -
(2) 20x9 Vossen VVS-082 Silver (Chrome Stainless Steel Lip) ET 35
(2) 20x10.5 Vossen VVS-082 Silver (Chrome Stainless Steel Lip) ET 35

Any fitment issues?

http://www.elementwheels.com/proddet...vvs-0822105sil

Will these fit with 255/35/20 and 285/30/20 - Yes or No

or 245/35/20 and 285/30/20 - Yes or No

Any concerns?

I DO NOT want any fender rubbing issues and I would like to lower as well.

Thanks for all the assistance. My 550i is the M sport version with ARS.

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To me the front offset is a bit on the conservative side but the rear is a good semi-aggressive fitment. My rears are the same specs and I'm running Falken FK453 in 285/30R20 with no rubbing with H&R springs.
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To me the front offset is a bit on the conservative side but the rear is a good semi-aggressive fitment. My rears are the same specs and I'm running Falken FK453 in 285/30R20 with no rubbing with H&R springs.
Understood. They also have a 20 ET version of the 20X9

Will, how is your ride on the 30s
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Understood. They also have a 20 ET version of the 20X9

Will, how is your ride on the 30s
20 might be too aggressive. I have a +29 now and could have went with a +24 to be a bit more aggressive, but I don't know about +20. I might put a 5mm spacer on my +29 to make it sit like a +24.

Technicallly you could use a spacer on the +35, but the use of spacers may or may not be something you want.

I would contact the vendor or better yet, call Vossen themselves and ask if they offer a different offset.

The ride on the 30s is great. Though it's thinner, keep in mind they are non-rft...so it will be a softer ride tire.
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20 might be too aggressive. I have a +29 now and could have went with a +24 to be a bit more aggressive, but I don't know about +20. I might put a 5mm spacer on my +29 to make it sit like a +24.

Technicallly you could use a spacer on the +35, but the use of spacers may or may not be something you want.

I would contact the vendor or better yet, call Vossen themselves and ask if they offer a different offset.

The ride on the 30s is great. Though it's thinner, keep in mind they are non-rft...so it will be a softer ride tire.
I called Vossen and they assured me the 20 ET would be fine. I questioned him and he indicated that offset was the primary one sold for the 550i M-Tech. I am not pressing for the 20 ET, and actually would be fine with the 35 ET. Thanks for the advice and I am with you on the spacers, not interested in the possible headaches
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I called Vossen and they assured me the 20 ET would be fine. I questioned him and he indicated that offset was the primary one sold for the 550i M-Tech. I am not pressing for the 20 ET, and actually would be fine with the 35 ET. Thanks for the advice and I am with you on the spacers, not interested in the possible headaches
Okay, I am going to get the Vossen rims. Can you please suggest three tire brands for me to look at as there are literally 100's. Here are two I am considering.

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Okay, I am going to get the Vossen rims. Can you please suggest three tire brands for me to look at as there are literally 100's. Here are two I am considering.

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Okay, I have moved on to either the Bridgestone Protenza S04 Pole Position or the Michelin Pilot Super Sport (Ferrari version).

Any thoughts??
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Michelin PSS ranks # 1 ... if you want the absolute best of the best.

http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...res-tested.pdf

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...omparison-test




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Okay, I have moved on to either the Bridgestone Protenza S04 Pole Position or the Michelin Pilot Super Sport (Ferrari version).

Any thoughts??
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Thanks for the info bobble.

I ordered the Avant Garde M310 Wheels Hyper Silver today from Element Wheels.

8.5 X 20 ET 30
10 X 20 ET 38

Am ordering the Mich PSS tomorrow morning. The nightmare of rim and tire selection is finally over.

Now whether to coil over or just H&R it?
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I ordered the Bridgestone Protenza S04 Pole Position tires. I am that Element wheels did not send the rims with the BMW caps as discussed.
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Did the shop agree to include the BMW caps in the deal ? If not, use the existing ones.

post some pics once you have fitted the hot wheels.

As for coilovers, KW V3 is the ultimate. Not sure if you have xdrive, if you do, then the KW V3 is not available for the xdrive. KW won't be making it at all.
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Did the shop agree to include the BMW caps in the deal ? If not, use the existing ones.

post some pics once you have fitted the hot wheels.

As for coilovers, KW V3 is the ultimate. Not sure if you have xdrive, if you do, then the KW V3 is not available for the xdrive. KW won't be making it at all.
B, I am going to try the RDS first (YES, expensive), my other half likes the suspension control feature......

Used the factory caps. I am now waiting on the RDS springs. Wheels and rims look great. I cannot believe the difference, it is a totally different look than the 351M rims. I am going to clean it up before taking some pics. Also changed the roundels from blue to black and put on the black kidney grills (E A S Y) and swapped out the chrome 550 i with the gloss black.
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There are a few reviews regarding to the RDS springs. Expensive but not sure it is actually any better than others like, ACS, HR, Eibach, etc.

When ready, post some pics for us to see the beauty !


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B, I am going to try the RDS first (YES, expensive), my other half likes the suspension control feature......

Used the factory caps. I am now waiting on the RDS springs. Wheels and rims look great. I cannot believe the difference, it is a totally different look than the 351M rims. I am going to clean it up before taking some pics. Also changed the roundels from blue to black and put on the black kidney grills (E A S Y) and swapped out the chrome 550 i with the gloss black.
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There are a few reviews regarding to the RDS springs. Expensive but not sure it is actually any better than others like, ACS, HR, Eibach, etc.

When ready, post some pics for us to see the beauty !
Will do. I am also debating addition of a front spoiler lip but I don't want a CF and the only other one I have found was $$$$$$$. Not sure I can justify and I Do Not want to be accused of "ruining" my cars look.
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http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=718346

Last post ... I think they will look good. Not sure what the price is ?


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Will do. I am also debating addition of a front spoiler lip but I don't want a CF and the only other one I have found was $$$$$$$. Not sure I can justify and I Do Not want to be accused of "ruining" my cars look.
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