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      08-29-2012, 11:07 AM   #23
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Its a tire issue, not the wheel so not sure what you would expect Andy to do.

Take a picture of your rear tire so we can see if you have the "K1" marking on the sidewall. If you do then thats is your problem right there. Michelin is your problem with selling two of the same tire, same size but having two version of it confusing the hell out of people. Again i had BOTH version of the rear tire in my possession at one point and the difference is what you are seeing. I am willing to bet money on it.

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Bro. It's not your tires, Looks like a "offset issue". I never heard that a tire can make ur wheels stick out. Even if it's a "k1" tire all it will do is give u that stretch look.
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Dude. He's not complaining about the wheels sticking out from the fender. He's complaining about the wheels sticking out from the tire which in this case is a TIRE selection issue. He IS complaining about the stretch tire issue. Re-read the original post.
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Dude, yes I read the post! I'm talking about his front wheels, how it sticks out.
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Hi alan and BMW, you both are correct. My front wheels stick out a few cm from fender while my back wheels' rims stick out from the tires. And yes alan, all the tires are marked "K1".

Regarding the back wheels, all I'm asking from Morr is to make sure they had given me the correct size (9x10 instead of 9x10.5) of the rims, I believe they should have record of their sales. If 9x10 is what Morr gave me, then I know it's Jorge who bought me the wrong set of tires. I need to know which side made their mistake.

Now the front wheels, I really have no idea why they stick out like that. I tried not to stop beside police cars at traffic light now just don't want them to pull me over.

Jorge asked me to unmount all the wheels to verify the size of the rims but I refused. I don't see the reason why I need to pay the extra money and time to go to my technician to unmount the wheels and tires then mount them up again just to verify the size, which these all should be done before they ship the wheels to me.

Lastly, I want to say Jorge was really helpful along. He tried to help as much as he can even in his honeymoon vacation.
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      08-30-2012, 05:28 AM   #28
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Alan I. how does your wheel fitment look compared to OP's fitment??
Does your wheels stick out like that too?
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The offset of your front wheels should not be right. They are protruding from the fenders. They should be flushed the most instead. Morr messed up again. Better avoid the road blocks from the Hong Kong police. You will get cited.
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Alan I. how does your wheel fitment look compared to OP's fitment??
Does your wheels stick out like that too?
My front setup is identical to the OP's. 20x9 wheel on a K1 245 40 PSS tire. On stock suspension the front does look like it stuck out pass the fenders a few mm but its not the wheel, it is the tire. All of the Michelin K1 Ferrari spec tire has this HUGE rim protector lip that protrudes out on the side wall. I'm talking about a good few mm pass the edge of the wheel. This is what the OP is seeing and same with my car. Once i dropped the car on ACS springs the wheel cambers in a little making it look more flush with the body.

Look at the wheel furthest away. This is my setup which is identical to the OP's except for my rear tire isn't a K1 spec.


MORR only makes ONE size wheel for the F10 20x9. Look at Kevin's setup here....looks pretty flush and might even be able to squeeze a small spacer in there. Why? because he's not running PSS tires with that massive sidewall protrusion.


Here is my car before my ACS springs. If you look closely you can see how the K1 tire sticks out way pass the wheel edge.


Now heres a pic of my car after the ACS springs. Again notice how my rear tire looks square on the wheel. This is because i swapped out the K1 tires for a non K1 tire in the back.


Some of you guys have a vendetta against MORR because of another HK members incident which is your choice but don't clutter up this thread with false information screwing with the OP's question.

OP - I can guarantee that if you switch out your K1 tire for anything else out there this will 1) eliminate the stretch look in the back and 2) eliminate how the tire protrudes out from the fenders up front. Morr makes their wheels with aggressive fitments and its the consumers responsibility to do their research if they like the look of the wheels. There's plenty of F10's running this setup around and nobody has issues. You have Michelin to thank for all this. I was lucky and caught this whole K1 and non K1 tire thing before i mounted the tires on the wheels. Unfortunately there isn't a non K1 tire for the front so i had to run with it. Looks perfect to me once you get a slight drop.

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      08-30-2012, 10:31 AM   #31
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I see the point about the PSS rim protector, looks like it's 5-6mm maybe.

But the MORR are aggressive, ET23 or close to that I think, and will stick out a bit on a F10 that's not dropped.

I've seen that the OEM 19" and 20" are almost flush on stock height, but when you drop the F10 is really cambers in a lot.
I remember that jaekeem had 20x8.5 ET14 inc. spacers and that didn't look like it was sticking out with the drop on coilovers.

BTW, I've seen pics of Michelin PSS 245/35/20 without K1 label here in Norway.
But then there's a new problem, those only has a Load Index of 91, and I believe the F10 at least need LI 93.

And from these pics, they look very much like the K1 speced too.



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BTW, I've seen pics of Michelin PSS 245/35/20 without K1 label here in Norway.
But then there's a new problem, those only has a Load Index of 91, and I believe the F10 at least need LI 93.

And from these pics, they look very much like the K1 speced too.
You are right. I just saw this on tirerack and they finally released the non K1 tire in that 245 35 20 size but the load rating is only 91Y. where did you see that the F10 required at least 93?

Lucky for the rears the load rating is the same between the K1 and non K1 tire (99Y)

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I would never buy any wheel from a company which takes 8 months to delivery a set of wheels to a customer. Together with all these problems for the tires, don't know who's fault it is. Also if I am a responsible dealer, I will never supply the customer with front and rear wheels of different tire stretch. It just doesn't make sense.

A lot of guys in the States love Morr and Wheeladdicts, but many of us in HK have sub-standard delivery from them. I rest my case.
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You are right. I just saw this on tirerack and they finally released the non K1 tire in that 245 35 20 size but the load rating is only 91Y. where did you see that the F10 required at least 93?

Lucky for the rears the load rating is the same between the K1 and non K1 tire (99Y)

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Here in Norway the registration document from the DMV has lots of technical information about the car.
Like weight, size, type of vehicle, engine size, emission, tire size, wheel size, offset and load index.

And I saw a registration document for a F10 520d, and it sad LI 93.
But I also saw one for a F11 520d, and it sad LI 96. Don't know why the F11 is listed as high as LI 96, shouldn't be that much heavier.

BTW, for my e90 it says LI 87.
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