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      09-12-2012, 04:27 PM   #1
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So I bought a F10 550i about 2 month ago, but it didn't have an adapter for Iphone 4 & 4S and i wanted to wait for the new Iphone 5 to come out, since i heard that it will have a different port and therefore i will need a different adapter for the car. Apple said something about cable adapters in the car can use a $29.99 adapter but what about original snap in adapter???
Apple had confirmed today that the new Iphone 5 will have a new 8 pin port and i am going to buy that phone on the 9/14 (online).
In their presentation they said that they are working with different accessory vendors to make new iphone's just as usable as 4s.
Where does BMW stand here? does anyone know when BMW will start selling these adapters to ppl in the USA?
please post any info on this thread for everyone who's interested.
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      09-12-2012, 05:25 PM   #2
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I too would like to know the answer to your question. I am about to take delivery of my 535, and I was going to buy the $199 snap-in cradle/adapter from my dealer. But if I am going to be getting the new iPhone 5, which is a significant possibility, I don't want to buy an adapter that I won't be able to use with my iPhone 5.

How long does it usually take BMW to release new accessories, like the adapter, to keep up with technology?
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      09-12-2012, 05:51 PM   #3
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I will have to continue using USB port to play music and bluetooth to make phone calls.
Any BMW insiders here????
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The iPhone 4 was launched in June 2010, and the adapter came out in Feb 2011.

So that's a benchmark for whatever its worth.
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      09-12-2012, 06:13 PM   #5
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The iPhone 4 was launched in June 2010, and the adapter came out in Feb 2011.

So that's a benchmark for whatever its worth.
Ouch!!!!! that can't be right...
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Here's the real problem:

The new Apple Lightning connector required to connect an iPhone 5, to a BMW Media adapter doesn't support iPod out! This is one of my favorite features of BMW apps, and now it is useless if you upgrade to the iPhone 5, or until BMW releases a new cradle.



http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD...ity%3Diphone_5

This, is no more.. Until new dock.

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      09-13-2012, 03:41 AM   #7
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The car still uses Bluetooth for making calls while in the proper adapter using the iPhone 4 or 4S.
I mostly don't use my dock since I have it mounted on the vents for navigation anyway.
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      09-13-2012, 11:17 PM   #8
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I'll be upgrading to the iPhone 5 and will make full use of my 4 as a glorified iPod!!! Hahaha I don't want that stupidly expensive media adapter to be a waste of money
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The iPhone 4 was launched in June 2010, and the adapter came out in Feb 2011.
And that was the first version without cooling fan which was quickly withdrawn from the market again. The reworked version with fan became available around June/July 2011 IIRC.
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      09-14-2012, 05:35 AM   #10
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I bought mine December 2011, there was an option between fan or no fan.

I choose the one without fan since it was cheaper.
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It seems to be even a bit worse. http://www.wired.com/autopia/2012/09/apple-lightning-bmw-mini/
Also if there is a iPhone 5 adapter coming out, the Lightning connector doesn't support analog, which seem to be required for iPod out.
Or?
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it is all digital, but like Apple said, the adapter they sell will work just fine, so i don't think there is a problem apart from the fact that most people don't like having to use adapter for their new iphone, so we all will buy new accessories
By the way, this is off topic but how much does a new fully loaded F10 550i cost in Switzerland?
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      09-17-2012, 12:32 AM   #13
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I posted this question on BMW NA's facebook page. Maybe if we all like / comment on this post we can get some attention on the issue and get an answer from them.

https://www.facebook.com/BMWUSA/posts/10151236121056303

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      09-17-2012, 01:49 AM   #14
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it is all digital, but like Apple said, the adapter they sell will work just fine, so i don't think there is a problem apart from the fact that most people don't like having to use adapter for their new iphone, so we all will buy new accessories
By the way, this is off topic but how much does a new fully loaded F10 550i cost in Switzerland?
Not sure about this...
- with adapter iPod out is dead. Not working due to adapter.
- unclear to me is whether iPod out works on lighting connector itself (and thus BMW "just" needs to introduce a new cradle) From what I read, it doesn't either (no analog = no iPod out), and they promote AirPlay instead (which BMW is not yet supporting). Im afraid that for all BMW owners out there today, iPod out is dead if you switch to iphone5, Cradle or no cradle, and BMW needs to find other ways to do this, if at all, which probably won't be upgrade-able easily...?

So: is this an adapter thing, or a lighting connector thing?

Another link: http://9to5mac.com/2012/09/13/lightning-connector-spec-doesnt-list-video-out-support-airplay-is-now-only-option/

550i here in Switzerland is about 100k chf, excl options. Add 15k options? Www.bmw.ch.
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      09-17-2012, 07:01 AM   #15
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I will be keeping an eye on this thread because I am interested in buying a used media cradle for the iPhone 4S. The 4S is perfectly fine and IMO the 5 is not that advantageous its predecessor to justify the change.
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      09-18-2012, 10:13 AM   #16
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I will be keeping an eye on this thread because I am interested in buying a used media cradle for the iPhone 4S. The 4S is perfectly fine and IMO the 5 is not that advantageous its predecessor to justify the change.
Interesting, we will be in touch. I have the cradle with only a few month of light use purchased from my dealer.
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Interesting, we will be in touch. I have the cradle with only a few month of light use purchased from my dealer.
Yes, we will.
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550i here in Switzerland is about 100k chf, excl options. Add 15k options? Www.bmw.ch.
15k options is just reasonably loaded, i.e. sports package, metallic paint, HUD and a few goodies.
If ticking all options like Alcantara headliner, Nappa leather, Night Vision, ACC, B&O system, Rear entertainment, 20" wheels, etc. 35-40k for all options sounds much more realistic.
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So I bought a F10 550i about 2 month ago, but it didn't have an adapter for Iphone 4 & 4S and i wanted to wait for the new Iphone 5 to come out, since i heard that it will have a different port and therefore i will need a different adapter for the car. Apple said something about cable adapters in the car can use a $29.99 adapter but what about original snap in adapter???
Apple had confirmed today that the new Iphone 5 will have a new 8 pin port and i am going to buy that phone on the 9/14 (online).
In their presentation they said that they are working with different accessory vendors to make new iphone's just as usable as 4s.
Where does BMW stand here? does anyone know when BMW will start selling these adapters to ppl in the USA?
please post any info on this thread for everyone who's interested.
thank you
OK...so here in Australia I am tossing up about adding the option 6NF Music Interface for Smartphones ($A220 - we don't have the 6NR option here)) which allows integration of iPhone 3, iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4 and iPhone 4S when using the Genuine BMW Accessory snap in adaptor (playback of music via the in-car system and track names shown on the Control Display); also allows phone calls using the car built-in antenna but (I am told) even if you buy the right snap-in adaptor, it won't work unless your car is specc'd with the 6NF option.

That's what the dealers have told me but I'd love to know any feedback to the contrary especially as I'm trying to make up my mind about buying the 6NF option in my currently ordered car (Carbon Black F10 535d M-Sport) in the "hope" that it will support the iPhone 5 sometime next year. I have asked the dealer & this is what they have fed back to me (from BMW Germany) -

"...the new Apple iPhone 5 was launched this week and its technical changes brought up some challenges for our in car connection concept as we know it from the former iPhone devices.

The changes in comparison to its forerunners are numerous and overall technically complex. Especially the introduction of the new 5 pole connector as well as the abolition of the analogue audio and video signal within its connector has an evidentially impact on our product portfolio (iPhone snap in adapter and iPhone cable solutions)!
BMW is already in the process of analysing all technical information supplied by Apple. First technical tests took place at Apple and compatibility tests with BMW vehicle network will take place during the next weeks.

At the moment, we have following technical situation in terms of iPhone 5 and our accessories products on offer:

1. With the new iPhone 5, Apple abandons its "iPod-out" function. As resulting consequence, this functionality does no longer support any BMW Apps and MINI Connected. This means no direct display of customers iPhone monitor on the onboard monitor!
2. Apple introduced a new connector - 5 poles which is currently not available on the world market for OEMs (estimated availability November 2012). Only when Apple provides all necessary technical background information on its new connector, BMW will able to start their development of a new snap in adapter (SIA) for iPhone 5. A correspondent request was already forward to Apple.
At the moment, we are unable to offer any snap in adapter solution for iPhone 5 customers who have following options in their vehicles:
o BMW options: 6NE, 6NF or 633/644
o MINI options: 6NM & 606
The development of a new SIA for iPhone 5 is under way and will take at the best 7 months. You should not expect an approved snap in adapter before 06/2013.

3. The Apple Lightning-connector, which was announced for end of October 2012, will not connect with our board system for BMW & MINI. Apple already informed BMW about its compatibility problems. Furthermore neither our audio adapter cable (pa/no. 0 440 812) nor the video-/audio adapter cable (pa/no. 2 179 623) is compatible with iPhone 5.
4. Apple provides a "white cable" with every device sold. However, this cable does not offer any solution in terms of a connection to our BMW & MINI board network because BMW has not finished its intensive technical tests and won't give confirmation of its compatibility yet.".

I have ordered 2 iPhone 5s (1 for me & 1 for the missus) but am keeping my iPhone 4, but I would really like the car to also support the iPhone 5 via the (yet to be available) BMW adaptor. I'm thinking I'll order 6NF & hope all it'll need will be the new iPhone 5 adaptor - worst case is I have to buy an iPhone 4 adaptor & just use that in the car...& yes, I know it should all work fine via bluetooth streaming as well.

Anyway - look forward to hearing more via this thread as we all get more news.
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Has anyone been able to pair the iphone 5 with an F10. I can not et it to work and my Iphone 4 with ios6 worked fine. Arggggggh
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Has anyone been able to pair the iphone 5 with an F10. I can not et it to work and my Iphone 4 with ios6 worked fine. Arggggggh
Yes, i have connected my Iphone 5 to my F10 550i, it wasn't supereasy but it doable.
Go to the telephone menu, and go to setting in your phone, bluetooth, turn it on ( if it isn't yet) it will search for devices, when it detects BMWxxx device, iphone will ask you to enter a key, just put 0000 almost immidietly idrive will have a dial asking for the key, enter the same key 0000 and click " ok" and its done!!!!!
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Mine paired with my 2013 F10 just like how my iPhone 4 did. Zero issues

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