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      10-16-2012, 01:16 PM   #23
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US just got their first F10 M5s and now next year its facelifted already?

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Same thing happened to the 2000 M5 IIRC, well probably not as soon as this but in the ball park.
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      10-16-2012, 01:19 PM   #24
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seems like BMW moved their LCI upgrades from 4 to 3 years!?

please dont become like audi where they change the model styling every 2 years....
Didn't Audi out sell BMW? Gotta copy the #1.
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I can also see the back entertainment system upgrade like the "ipad" screen from the 6 series.
I like that!!!!
I dont think so. Look through the driver window you can see its the current dash integrated navigation screen. They wouldn't make such a huge change just for the facelift.
Back entertainment. Look through the back seat window.
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seems like BMW moved their LCI upgrades from 4 to 3 years!?

please dont become like audi where they change the model styling every 2 years....
Didn't Audi out sell BMW? Gotta copy the #1.
They haven't yet but are moving towards it maybe this year if not next year
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      10-16-2012, 01:47 PM   #27
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I can also see the back entertainment system upgrade like the "ipad" screen from the 6 series.
I like that!!!!
I dont think so. Look through the driver window you can see its the current dash integrated navigation screen. They wouldn't make such a huge change just for the facelift.
Back entertainment. Look through the back seat window.
FYI Those iPad mounts fit to any seat!

You can buy them on line or at the dealer.

The tester simply has two iPads for two RugRats.
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      10-16-2012, 02:41 PM   #28
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What about diesel engines? Any changes? Hope so...

Of course they need to replace 3 litre 306 hp turbo engine quickly, Audi has better one!
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They haven't yet but are moving towards it maybe this year if not next year
in the US audi is far back!
http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2012/05...ales-2012.html

In Germany and Switzerland BMW is also before Audi....
http://www.focus.de/auto/news/autoab...id_745376.html
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The F10 was introduced in March 2010. September 2013 is the "normal" date for the LCI.
This.

The LCI is for the entire 5 series line up, not just the M5. The M5 may have just hit the US market a little over a month ago, but the F10 has available to markets worldwide for a few years now.
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I would be FURIOUS if i spent upwards of 100k on an M5 and I saw this news today. Not cool, US owners are just starting to get their cars. A year old R8 is starting to look better and better.
Yeah, because those are two cars being regularly cross shopped.....

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Excuse me, I forgot to specify, v8 r8. And yes, I happen to be cross shopping the two as options for my next car. One hand I have a TT v8 super sedan, and on the other, a two door v8 somewhat "super car." To each his own.
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      10-16-2012, 04:07 PM   #34
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Excuse me, I forgot to specify, v8 r8. And yes, I happen to be cross shopping the two as options for my next car. One hand I have a TT v8 super sedan, and on the other, a two door v8 somewhat "super car." To each his own.
Couple things to note my friend.

1)The R8 V8 sucks. It is about as slow as an M3 and while having owned an M3, I would be dissapointed if I had an R8 and it was about the same power. If you go R8, you go V10. NOT the V8.

2) I too am somewhat cross shopping these 2 cars, but perhaps differently then you are. If I get the F10 M5, it would be my one and only car. If I get the R8 V10, it would be my weekend/toy car and I would either keep my current Range Rover or perhaps pick up something a bit cheaper for daily driving. My point is, they are 2 very different cars. And I agree with b-thumper, that these 2 cars cannot be cross shopped as they serve 2 totally different purposes.
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FYI Those iPad mounts fit to any seat!

You can buy them on line or at the dealer.

The tester simply has two iPads for two RugRats.
Actually BMW already introduce a IPAD style REAR ENT in the LCI 7 series. Seems the new 5 series will get this style next July.
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I'm getting the new M6, forget everything else. possibly one of the best interior designs I've ever sat in.
I used to think the R8 had a great interior for the price, but M6 takes the trophy.
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I'm getting the new M6, forget everything else. possibly one of the best interior designs I've ever sat in.
I used to think the R8 had a great interior for the price, but M6 takes the trophy.
R8 had a great interior for the price?

The R8 interior was designed in the mid 2000s and it shows!

Its awful IMO, looks old and outdated.

Whats even more crazy is the fact that the 2013 R8 (facelifted model coming out in the next few months) has the same interior as the the 2008.

By the way, for what its worth. I am currently in the market for an R8 V10. So I have nothing against the car, in fact I love every aspect of it. The interior is the only thing lacking IMO.
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seems like BMW moved their LCI upgrades from 4 to 3 years!?

please dont become like audi where they change the model styling every 2 years....
Didn't Audi out sell BMW? Gotta copy the #1.
They haven't yet but are moving towards it maybe this year if not next year
I hope Audi outsells BMW, BMWs are becoming too common. I see over 20 F10s on commute each day.

However, i hope this LCI doesnt have those ugly smiling clown front lips
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Same story, different thread/car, this ALWAYS happens...

Just as soon as you pop off and buy your dream car, they make changes to the nav, or an LCI comes out, or an entirely new car is out a few years later...

WHO CARES?

Drive your car, LOVE IT, and don't look back...

Sure hope the LCI has available LED headlights like the LCI x5, x6, 7er, and the new 6er...
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Same story, different thread/car, this ALWAYS happens...

Just as soon as you pop off and buy your dream car, they make changes to the nav, or an LCI comes out, or an entirely new car is out a few years later...

WHO CARES?

Drive your car, LOVE IT, and don't look back...

Sure hope the LCI has available LED headlights like the LCI x5, x6, 7er, and the new 6er...
I agree. Beyond that, I wonder what new engineering tricks will show up in the N55 successor.
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first pic looks like the right hood latch still doesnt close on the first try. as with all F10s
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If the updated changes don't make any performance differences, I can always live with it. Pre-LCI 5er looks good enough to me.
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I was in the process of writing the same thing... I would be so pissed!
Damned that's so true!

Imagine looking forward to delivery of your new "old" F10 in 2013
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