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      02-27-2012, 04:08 AM   #1
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Sold my 2007 E90 325i, was giving me a tough time, whole loads of issues with the car electronics. Was in the service station more than on the road.

Got myself the new F10 525d non m-sport (because it's not available in my country,unfortunately ) it's black with cinnamon brown interior.
Read a lot about the car on the threads here, and decided to go with this particular model. Thanks for the help everyone here. And now i can also contribute to the forum with my own f10.

Love the color, but it's just a massive pain in the a** to maintain here in India. Love the ride comfort in front and in the back as well, which is very much required here with the potholes and the uneven roads. this model comes with rear seat entertainment as standard, though hasn't been used at all till now. Wish it had the variable suspension like the 530d. We don't even have it as an option as these cars are in-stock as per the dealers customizations.
The 530d was not available for next three weeks and i needed the car the same day so picked up this one. I don't regret the decision in anyway.

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      02-27-2012, 05:05 AM   #2
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And a very warm hello from your neighbor and congrats on the acquisition! Its good to read your positive comments especially about the ride quality despite the road conditions which I'm sure we share, and I was a little apprehensive about before pulling the trigger. I would love to know more about the other options you have in your vehicle and your take on them. Also, how do you feel about the diesel engine coming from a petrol?
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      02-27-2012, 06:56 PM   #5
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And a very warm hello from your neighbor and congrats on the acquisition! Its good to read your positive comments especially about the ride quality despite the road conditions which I'm sure we share, and I was a little apprehensive about before pulling the trigger. I would love to know more about the other options you have in your vehicle and your take on them. Also, how do you feel about the diesel engine coming from a petrol?
Thanks for the warm welcome.
I have the anthracite finleine interior trim, 7" on-board monitor and two 8.2" rear seat monitors, electric glass-roof, lumbar support seats, USB interface, multifunctional steering wheel, Bluetooth.

All the options in this car came pre-selected by the dealer himself, as the diesel f10's are assembled in a plant here in the country itself. So no choice but to pick up whatever you get, the only choice you do get is for the exterior paint. I wanted cinnamon brown interior, so that was restricted with exterior paints of, white, grey and black only.

The petrol motor was much more fun in terms of driving but for everyday use the diesel is much more efficient. Especially when my daily running is a lot. My car has already done 5000km+ in just two months. Even when i don't take it much on the long routes. I use other cars for highway driving.


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Thanks. The registration plates are temporary, as it says on the plates itself. Will get the permanent ones by this week.
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Thanks for the warm welcome.
I have the anthracite finleine interior trim, 7" on-board monitor and two 8.2" rear seat monitors, electric glass-roof, lumbar support seats, USB interface, multifunctional steering wheel, Bluetooth.

All the options in this car came pre-selected by the dealer himself, as the diesel f10's are assembled in a plant here in the country itself. So no choice but to pick up whatever you get, the only choice you do get is for the exterior paint. I wanted cinnamon brown interior, so that was restricted with exterior paints of, white, grey and black only.

The petrol motor was much more fun in terms of driving but for everyday use the diesel is much more efficient. Especially when my daily running is a lot. My car has already done 5000km+ in just two months. Even when i don't take it much on the long routes. I use other cars for highway driving.




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Thanks. The registration plates are temporary, as it says on the plates itself. Will get the permanent ones by this week.
You do use your car a lot ! Mine has 2.5 months and only a tenth of your kilometre-age

Quite interesting to see that in India, the standard bundle is quite high, especially rear seat monitors.

Congrats on your new toy or should I say working tool!
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Thanks for the warm welcome.
I have the anthracite finleine interior trim, 7" on-board monitor and two 8.2" rear seat monitors, electric glass-roof, lumbar support seats, USB interface, multifunctional steering wheel, Bluetooth.

All the options in this car came pre-selected by the dealer himself, as the diesel f10's are assembled in a plant here in the country itself. So no choice but to pick up whatever you get, the only choice you do get is for the exterior paint. I wanted cinnamon brown interior, so that was restricted with exterior paints of, white, grey and black only.

The petrol motor was much more fun in terms of driving but for everyday use the diesel is much more efficient. Especially when my daily running is a lot. My car has already done 5000km+ in just two months. Even when i don't take it much on the long routes. I use other cars for highway driving.
Do you get Sat Nav as an option in India? What about in-car audio, what did you go for? Reverse camera standard or not? I really wanted the M-package too but on our roads that would have meant daily occurrences of the car scraping on badly constructed speed bumps and invisible potholes. I can't handle that mentally, I love my cars too much.

Its a little odd that for a car that is assembled within India they don't offer customization options for local customers, a car like the F10 should be totally built to order! Even though your car appears to have some of the high-end options as standard.

Since your car is not imported but locally assembled, did you get it at a good price or is it still very expensive? I know Mercedes has a local assembly plant in Pune as well, are the Bimmers competently priced? I am paying an arm and a leg for mine and that too in Euro, which is strengthening day by day against a weak Pakistani Rupee. I dread the value assessment day at Customs when the car arrives!
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      02-28-2012, 06:53 AM   #8
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You do use your car a lot ! Mine has 2.5 months and only a tenth of your kilometre-age

Quite interesting to see that in India, the standard bundle is quite high, especially rear seat monitors.

Congrats on your new toy or should I say working tool!
Thanks man. I do use all my cars a lot on daily basis. On average each of may cars do 1000k per month, and we have 5 of them.
The rear seat monitors are available in 530d and 525d. Diesel cars a huge hit in India, which is why they give a lot of standard options on them.


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Do you get Sat Nav as an option in India? What about in-car audio, what did you go for? Reverse camera standard or not? I really wanted the M-package too but on our roads that would have meant daily occurrences of the car scraping on badly constructed speed bumps and invisible potholes. I can't handle that mentally, I love my cars too much.

We get sat nav standard on the 530d but not 525d. i have the hifi audio system,don't know how many speakers though it has enough speakers to keep me entertained. No reverse camera, not even an option, sat nav is also not an option, because these are all standard feature on 530, they wouldn't want to give them standard on a 525. Bad roads is the reason why they don't offer M-sport kit in India as well because its just not sensible to have one.

Its a little odd that for a car that is assembled within India they don't offer customization options for local customers, a car like the F10 should be totally built to order! Even though your car appears to have some of the high-end options as standard.

It's just assembled here according to what inventory you order for the particular models, so you cant just go to the dealer and ask, i need a sat nav in my 525d, it's not possible as they didn't order it as a whole on the particular model to be assembled. And if they didn't offer the high-end options then people would rather choose a 3-series because its half the price with similar features. People here buy BMW cars for the badge value. Well, 70% of them do. for them a bmw is a bmw, be it 3 or 5.

Since your car is not imported but locally assembled, did you get it at a good price or is it still very expensive? I know Mercedes has a local assembly plant in Pune as well, are the Bimmers competently priced? I am paying an arm and a leg for mine and that too in Euro, which is strengthening day by day against a weak Pakistani Rupee. I dread the value assessment day at Customs when the car arrives!

Its still very expensive to buy imported cars here in India, though assembled ones cost you less on custom and import duties. For example the 525d is a CKD (completely knocked down) which is charged with 60%duties over the standard factory price and a 535i is a CBU (completely built unit) which is charged 115% duties. The price difference is huge. I would have bought the 535i if it was assembled here in India. I will give u a slight idea of prices in dollars.
my 525d costs - $88,639
Standard 535i - $121,242
and all these prices quoted are without registration charges and other road tax etc.
Answered all your queries above in bold. i hope i dint miss out on anything.
So, these cars don't come cheap for us,
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      02-28-2012, 07:35 PM   #10
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Well the import duty structure seems similar, ours is also around 115% for petrol engines upto 1800cc but shoots up to over 200%+ if you go for a bigger engine. For diesel, it shoots up for engines bigger than 2000cc and above so that basically leaves out 525d or 530d.

My entry-level 520d is costing me over $130k but admittedly I did select a lot of options. The basic vehicle is priced around $85k but that is just the bare-bones car, no options not even auto transmission. I would definitely have chosen the 530i or 535i but just the 535i starts around $130k, basic. Add the options and it was gonna cost me $165k. That was beyond my budget but I hope to enjoy the 520d as much as I can.
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Well the import duty structure seems similar, ours is also around 115% for petrol engines upto 1800cc but shoots up to over 200%+ if you go for a bigger engine. For diesel, it shoots up for engines bigger than 2000cc and above so that basically leaves out 525d or 530d.

My entry-level 520d is costing me over $130k but admittedly I did select a lot of options. The basic vehicle is priced around $85k but that is just the bare-bones car, no options not even auto transmission. I would definitely have chosen the 530i or 535i but just the 535i starts around $130k, basic. Add the options and it was gonna cost me $165k. That was beyond my budget but I hope to enjoy the 520d as much as I can.
The 2012 520d has some power increase as well, and with almost all options ticked, you wouldn't have to worry about enjoying the car. With a 2 liter engine, the car is still amazing to drive, especially on our kind of roads, its more than enough to be true. If i was to get same options like 525 in a 520, i would have got it and saved me some cash to get the m-sport kit . We don't get rear entertainment monitors, and the wheels size is smaller, with a different leather grade for interiors and a few more changes in the 520. So picked up a 525d.

One of my favorite features of new BMW's is the white rings. And in the 5-series they just look even better with the orange light on the top corner.
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You said it: I love the new lights, especially the angel eyes! I also just got my VIN issued today so maybe just a month left till I have one of my own!
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Don't you just hate waiting for you car to come to you. Looking forward to a lot of pictures of your ride. I will upload more pics once I am back to India.
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Hate it like I've never hated anything before! I placed the order in Dec 2011 so you can imagine how difficult these last few months have been for me but the wait is almost over, I hope to get the car sometime in early April. Its just a month away, thats what I keep telling myself now.

You bet there will be a lot of photos, and can't wait to see yours too.
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Wanted to know, if i could change the smaller screen on the dash with the larger ones. I can't use GPS if i have this screen, it only works with the bigger one. That's what sales executive told me.

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Wanted to know, if i could change the smaller screen on the dash with the larger ones. I can't use GPS if i have this screen, it only works with the bigger one. That's what sales executive told me.

Sorry for the bad picture quality, clicked form my phone.
No navi business has a small screen and navi professional has big screen. so you can upgrade to navi business. but I think it expensive. check with your dealer.
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No navi business has a small screen and navi professional has big screen. so you can upgrade to navi business. but I think it expensive. check with your dealer.
I checked with the dealer, he said it can't be done. The dealers here have no sense of what equipment is offered other than what is written in the spec sheet give to them. They don't even know what whiteline lights are, so i wouldn't expect them to know if i can fix a professional navigation.

I thought maybe if i ordered the parts myself and got it done by some workshop outside. Anyone know if that is possible?

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Nice car you have there.

Check with Patrys. He might help you out.

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