2010 2011 BMW 5 Series Forum F10
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
 

2010 2011 BMW 5 Series Forum F10 BMW 5-Series (F10) Forums General 5-Series Sedan and Wagon (F10 / F11) Forum BMW 5 Series F10 LCI Facelift/Update Previewed in Render
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      02-24-2013, 03:14 PM   #1
SCOTT26
Brigadier General
 
SCOTT26's Avatar
 
Drives: Frozen Dark Silver 30 Jahre
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: WORLDWIDE

Posts: 3,168
iTrader: (0)

BMW 5 Series F10 LCI Facelift/Update Previewed in Render

BIMMERPOST
     Featured on BIMMERPOST.com
The latest Autobild previews the LCI BMW 5er which shows what lies behind the camouflage tape.

As per modern BMW and integrated as EfficientDynamics. The 5er LCI inherits Air curtains , as well as new detailing, a re-profiled nose that is slightly faired in headlamps and optional LED adaptive headlights.

The change is not radical as the 5er maintains its position as the segment benchmark. Of course there will be significant changes to engine options (550i Gets N63Tu Engine, 535d for US [source]) and for entry customers the BMW 518 makes a return since the E34 albeit in diesel form.

Engineers have also incorporated slight changes to the car's steering as well as incorporating BMW's cylinder dimming introduced on the 7er.

Both the BMW 5er Touring and 5er Gran Turismo will debut at the same time.

Admin Edit:

We have information which shows production for the F10 LCI as beginning in July 2013, with deliveries starting in August/September of 2013.

Latest F10 LCI spy photos: http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=795778


Name:  image.jpg
Views: 24214
Size:  224.9 KB


Compare to recent spy photo:

Name:  bmw 5 plugin 3.jpg
Views: 20853
Size:  350.9 KB
__________________
Electrified
SCOTT26 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-24-2013, 05:25 PM   #2
bimmerjph
Lieutenant Colonel
 
bimmerjph's Avatar
 
Drives: 2002 BMW 325i
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Tennessee

Posts: 1,974
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by SCOTT26 View Post
m. Engineers have also incorporated slight changes to the car's steering as well as incorporating BMW's cylinder dimming introduced on the 7er.
I hope its a bit more than slight changes to the cars steering.


Also the cylinder dimming would be valvetronic right? If so, doesn't the 5er already have valvetronic in all of its engines?
bimmerjph is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      02-24-2013, 06:06 PM   #3
SamS
Brigadier General
 
SamS's Avatar
 
Drives: 2013 ActiveHybrid 3
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Dallas, TX

Posts: 4,528
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by bimmerjph View Post
I hope its a bit more than slight changes to the cars steering.


Also the cylinder dimming would be valvetronic right? If so, doesn't the 5er already have valvetronic in all of its engines?
Valvetronic is completely different than cylinder dimming/deactivation.
__________________
SamS is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-24-2013, 06:29 PM   #4
bimmerjph
Lieutenant Colonel
 
bimmerjph's Avatar
 
Drives: 2002 BMW 325i
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Tennessee

Posts: 1,974
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by SamS View Post
Valvetronic is completely different than cylinder dimming/deactivation.
Dimming and deactivation are not the same thing.

This is from the release of the inline 3 engine. Apparently it is part of the Valvetronic technology. Scott must have been referring to a further development of it.

Quote:
A proven concept with a great future: don’t switch it off - dim it.

"In stark contrast to other approaches, the VALVETRONIC system delivers gains in efficiency, including improved engine response and better engine torque development over the entire rpm range of the engine. The throttle-free load control system works like a dimmer, affecting all cylinders equally; the engine continues to run smoothly and its acoustic properties remain unchanged, something which cannot be said of cylinder deactivation. “Dimming instead of switching off” results in minimum fuel consumption and emission levels, while maximum dynamics, matchless comfort and sophisticated power delivery are achieved. In addition, this proprietary BMW technology can be used in engines of different sizes and power. In a nutshell, these new engine modules put the BMW Group in a position to configure engines of an optimal size, providing an ideal solution for each individual application."
bimmerjph is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      02-24-2013, 06:44 PM   #5
bayarea328xit
Private
 
Drives: 2007 328xit
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Bay Area, CA

Posts: 80
iTrader: (0)

Cylinder dimming?

Quote:
Originally Posted by SCOTT26 View Post
...as well as incorporating BMW's cylinder dimming introduced on the 7er...
What is "cylinder dimming" -- any additional information?
bayarea328xit is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      02-25-2013, 12:43 AM   #6
mkoesel
Moderator
 
Drives: 2015 SO/CSAT F80 M3
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Canton, MI

Posts: 13,751
iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by bimmerjph View Post
doesn't the 5er already have valvetronic in all of its engines?
The 550i still uses the N63 which does not have Valvetronic. The LCI 550i will get the N63Tu which does have Valvetronic.
__________________
A gen-u-ine BMW eff-eight-zero with them tandem clutches in the transmission and that dad gum sun roof on the top-a da cawr.
mkoesel is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      02-25-2013, 06:32 AM   #7
FElleven
Enlisted Member
 
Drives: F11 525xd
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Slovenia

Posts: 39
iTrader: (0)

I don't like the new look of front at all, ie zagged kidney grills, squared "eyes", that added line from lights to kidneys - it ruins the soft lines... Glad I did get the MY2013...
FElleven is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-25-2013, 10:05 AM   #8
Alan l.
Brigadier General
 
Alan l.'s Avatar
 
Drives: LCI M-Sport 550i
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: East Coast

Posts: 4,424
iTrader: (8)

What engines will be offered in the states?

all the rumors made it seem like the N55 successor will debut in the 4 series coupe and the LCI 5 but recent VIN searches doesn't seem to suggest that being true anymore.

Alan
__________________

2014 LCI 550i M Sport | 3D Design Front Spoiler | BMW Performance Black Grills | BMW Performance Trunk Lip | BMW Performance Diffuser | Painted Reflectors | Wincos 30% Tint | Supersprint Exhaust | ACSSprings | MORR VS8.2 Rims 20x10R and 20x9F | Michelin PSS Tires |||More Photos of my car here|||
Alan l. is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-25-2013, 10:55 AM   #9
mlai
Colonel
 
mlai's Avatar
 
Drives: 650GC/E93M3/Lexus LS600HL
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Hong Kong

Posts: 2,343
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
I have to say the front end below the grill looks terrible!
__________________
F06 650i Gran Coupe Ruby Black/Dakota Cinamon- 2012-10-12 Adaptive Drive/IAS/Surround View/Adaptive LED/Comfort Seats/BMW 356 Liquid Black/Michelin PSS 245/35R20-285/30R20
E93 M3 Cabriolet Satin Pearl White/CR - 2012/03/12 Bilstein PSS10/ Michelin PSS 245/35R19-265/35R19 Brembo GT
2011 F10 550i M Sport - Retired
mlai is offline   Hong Kong
0
Reply With Quote
      02-25-2013, 12:06 PM   #10
WillInDenver
Lieutenant
 
WillInDenver's Avatar
 
Drives: 2013 F10 535 xDrive MSport
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Denver

Posts: 598
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by FElleven View Post
I don't like the new look of front at all, ie zagged kidney grills, squared "eyes", that added line from lights to kidneys - it ruins the soft lines... Glad I did get the MY2013...
I always get a kick out of comments like this. The car company redesigns a model, and out come all the people who just bought a pre-redesign version talking about what a step in the wrong direction the redesign is. Seems like some pretty clear psychology at play there.
__________________
-Will
2013 535i xDrive M-Sport | 2005 545i Sport (Retired and missed) | 2001 X5 3.0 Sport (Retired)
WillInDenver is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      02-25-2013, 12:32 PM   #11
FElleven
Enlisted Member
 
Drives: F11 525xd
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Slovenia

Posts: 39
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by WJGreer View Post
I always get a kick out of comments like this. The car company redesigns a model, and out come all the people who just bought a pre-redesign version talking about what a step in the wrong direction the redesign is. Seems like some pretty clear psychology at play there.
Not at all, that I am biased coz I have the current model, its just my opinion. Am I not allowed to like softer lines of current model?!? I know that LCI cycle needs some redesign, something new to make it attractive to new customers. But for ME, the current design defiantly yields more seamless lines in the front, and angle eyes are just nicer being round and thin. Also zagged kidney grilles and that "aggressive" line from headlights to kidneys are not my cup of tea.

But I do like the improvements that LCI will bring, steering optimization, added power, protective air curtains, etc... Just don't like the design, thats all.
FElleven is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-25-2013, 12:42 PM   #12
TheBingoBalls
Lieutenant Colonel
 
Drives: E90 325i, R56 MINI Cooper
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Toronto, Ontario

Posts: 1,751
iTrader: (1)

By comparing what the F01 7-Series did for the LCI, this render looks plausible. I read somewhere that the 5-Series LCI headlights would get similar treatment as the 7-Series (the droopy look). The lower bumper also looks similar to what was done on the 7-Series but was toned down to fit the overall appearance of the exterior. Overall, I think this is something we could realistically see but obviously more tailored to fit the exterior of the F10.
TheBingoBalls is offline   Canada
0
Reply With Quote
      02-25-2013, 12:56 PM   #13
r3dbimmer89
The Coolest
 
r3dbimmer89's Avatar
 
Drives: F80 M3
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: SoCal

Posts: 808
iTrader: (0)

I wonder how much better will the LCI steering feel.
__________________
Past:12 E92 335i/ 08 E90 335i/02 E46 325i
Present:15 F80 ///M3
r3dbimmer89 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      02-25-2013, 01:07 PM   #14
TheBingoBalls
Lieutenant Colonel
 
Drives: E90 325i, R56 MINI Cooper
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Toronto, Ontario

Posts: 1,751
iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by r3dbimmer89 View Post
I wonder how much better will the LCI steering feel.
Hopefully it's a big improvement rather than a minor one to say. The A6 already has better steering feel and the early reviews say the E-Class improved a lot in terms of driving (steering feeling included) so BMW has some work to do.
TheBingoBalls is offline   Canada
0
Reply With Quote
      02-25-2013, 01:47 PM   #15
MSPORTWORLD
Major
 
MSPORTWORLD's Avatar
 
Drives: '11 M3 MW/FR - '12 M3 FO/SC
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: California

Posts: 1,186
iTrader: (2)

Garage List
Good looking re-fresh!
__________________
MSPORTWORLD is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      02-25-2013, 02:39 PM   #16
e92dave
Private
 
Drives: 08' e92 335i
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: boston, ma

Posts: 92
iTrader: (0)

Any changes in the rear? New rim styles?
e92dave is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-25-2013, 03:05 PM   #17
aajami
Brigadier General
 
aajami's Avatar
 
Drives: Space Gray '09 E92 M3
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Manhattan Beach, CA

Posts: 4,027
iTrader: (4)

Quote:
Originally Posted by e92dave View Post
Any changes in the rear? New rim styles?
The taillights will get a subtle change to make the tubes contrast a bit more with the rest of the assembly, though the shape of the taillights and the tubes themselves won't change (at least, not from what I can tell from the spy shots). I would expect a new set of wheel options, and wouldn't be surprised to see a subtle update to the rear bumper along the trailing edge as well.

By the way, I don't see any air curtains in the preview render. Did they just neglect that part, or is BMW's definition of air curtains changing now? (I was expecting 1M/E82 LCI/F01 LCI style vertical slats).
__________________
'09 E92 M3: Space Gray, Black, Carbon Leather | ZTP 2MK ZPP 2MT 6FL | link 1 / link 2
Mods: M Performance exhaust | ZCP retrofit | Euro airbox | GTS DCT flash | 240J ECU flash | LCI Euro taillights | CRT lip | OEM alarm retrofit | Space Gray bumper plugs | BMW Performance: Mk. II spoiler / Mk. II non-electronic steering wheel / mirror caps / front grilles / side gills / intake louvers / emblem
aajami is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      02-25-2013, 05:13 PM   #18
touringfanatic
Enlisted Member
 
Drives: bmw 5er f11 Touring
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Belgrade,Serbia

Posts: 47
iTrader: (0)

Don't loose sleep over this. Autobild renders often miss the target when it comes to the real deal. Honestly the original is much more classy if you ask me, however we all know that f10/f11 Achilles heel is the steering so I'm really excited to see if that has improved over the competition. I really hope that the lci exterior gets the 'angel eyes' but keeps the most of the old looks.
touringfanatic is offline   Serbia
0
Reply With Quote
      02-25-2013, 06:27 PM   #19
TheBingoBalls
Lieutenant Colonel
 
Drives: E90 325i, R56 MINI Cooper
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Toronto, Ontario

Posts: 1,751
iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by touringfanatic View Post
Don't loose sleep over this. Autobild renders often miss the target when it comes to the real deal. Honestly the original is much more classy if you ask me, however we all know that f10/f11 Achilles heel is the steering so I'm really excited to see if that has improved over the competition. I really hope that the lci exterior gets the 'angel eyes' but keeps the most of the old looks.
It will or should if you go by the 7-Series LCI. Everything pretty much stayed the same except for the front and very minor changes in the rear.
TheBingoBalls is offline   Canada
0
Reply With Quote
      02-25-2013, 06:47 PM   #20
AlanM
Ninja Poster
 
Drives: 2012 535i xdrive
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: NJ

Posts: 38
iTrader: (0)

Can someone please explain why the LCI parts always have the weird squiggly paint?
AlanM is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-25-2013, 08:09 PM   #21
mlai
Colonel
 
mlai's Avatar
 
Drives: 650GC/E93M3/Lexus LS600HL
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Hong Kong

Posts: 2,343
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by WJGreer
Quote:
Originally Posted by FElleven View Post
I don't like the new look of front at all, ie zagged kidney grills, squared "eyes", that added line from lights to kidneys - it ruins the soft lines... Glad I did get the MY2013...
I always get a kick out of comments like this. The car company redesigns a model, and out come all the people who just bought a pre-redesign version talking about what a step in the wrong direction the redesign is. Seems like some pretty clear psychology at play there.
I am sure not the comment is as biased as you put it. I for one no longer own the pre-lci and still thinks the pre-lci looked better.....
__________________
F06 650i Gran Coupe Ruby Black/Dakota Cinamon- 2012-10-12 Adaptive Drive/IAS/Surround View/Adaptive LED/Comfort Seats/BMW 356 Liquid Black/Michelin PSS 245/35R20-285/30R20
E93 M3 Cabriolet Satin Pearl White/CR - 2012/03/12 Bilstein PSS10/ Michelin PSS 245/35R19-265/35R19 Brembo GT
2011 F10 550i M Sport - Retired
mlai is offline   Hong Kong
0
Reply With Quote
      02-25-2013, 08:09 PM   #22
mlai
Colonel
 
mlai's Avatar
 
Drives: 650GC/E93M3/Lexus LS600HL
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Hong Kong

Posts: 2,343
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by WJGreer
Quote:
Originally Posted by FElleven View Post
I don't like the new look of front at all, ie zagged kidney grills, squared "eyes", that added line from lights to kidneys - it ruins the soft lines... Glad I did get the MY2013...
I always get a kick out of comments like this. The car company redesigns a model, and out come all the people who just bought a pre-redesign version talking about what a step in the wrong direction the redesign is. Seems like some pretty clear psychology at play there.
I am sure not the comment is as biased as you put it. I for one no longer own the pre-lci and still thinks the pre-lci looked better.....
__________________
F06 650i Gran Coupe Ruby Black/Dakota Cinamon- 2012-10-12 Adaptive Drive/IAS/Surround View/Adaptive LED/Comfort Seats/BMW 356 Liquid Black/Michelin PSS 245/35R20-285/30R20
E93 M3 Cabriolet Satin Pearl White/CR - 2012/03/12 Bilstein PSS10/ Michelin PSS 245/35R19-265/35R19 Brembo GT
2011 F10 550i M Sport - Retired
mlai is offline   Hong Kong
0
Reply With Quote
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:17 AM.




5post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST