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      06-25-2022, 03:52 PM   #81
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Originally Posted by KoenG View Post
The max torque the MT can handle dictates the max output of the engine. A slushbox can handle much more. It's not that they are toning down the engine just to screw their customers over that select a MT.
MT guys are forgetting engine outputs are exceeding what MT can take without putting in boxes which really are only suited to commercial vehicles. Conventional MT has a weak link in the design, without being really beefed up, which limits torque.

It's the key reason the BMW higher output performance diesels dropped MT years ago, too much torque. BMW's MT in something like a 530d (20-years ago) was far too 'clunky' to be a driver's gearbox.
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