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Originally Posted by glennQNYC
Actually there's a lot of things I mentioned that only Loxone can provide. Examples being knowing exactly where the sun is in the sky (and taking actions with that information); and the ability to break your HVAC system into individual zones. This is VERY real world. It is true that you could add light and occupancy sensors to a conventional control system, but the programming bill would be massive because the integrator would be starting from scratch.
Loxone does make our own pool controller but it's not applicable to US systems. We easily integrate with popular US pool controllers.
While not as old as Lutron; 10-year old Loxone is a very established and mature company. We have hundreds of thousands of active systems; 18 corporate office locations around the world. The two newest being our North American location near Philadelphia; and our China office in Shanghai.
The difference is the superior intelligence contained in a Loxone system. Other systems excel at being a CONTROL system. Loxone excels at being a AUTOMATION system. Loxone logic or smarts is absolutely a generation ahead of control systems. It's far more stable and reliable too.
You can download the Loxone app and try it out by connecting to the demo system in London we set up. This will allow you to test drive the app.
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Still a bit of risk spending 25-50k on a 10 year old company. And so pool control we be just like every other automation system.
Lutron has daylight autonomy which can easily integrate into functions to automate the system. Occupancy sensors are very easy to setup. For instance, Loxone website talks about walking into bathroom and having lights and hvac set to desired level, maybe music. Very easy to automate in Control4 and Savant. Certainly not MASSIVE programming.
Please stay clear of superlatives without examples. "Superior intelligence". "Advanced logic", etc. What exactly does that mean? I would disagree that Crestron, Savant or Control4 are not automation. There is lots of automation to be performed if client wishes. Let me provide example, upon entering a set radius Control4 can turn on hvac, smaller radius say one block, open gate and turn on lights. At 11pm, automatically close garage if not close already. As to stability, never had issue with either our Crestron or C4 systems crashing.